Gangs soliciting money for protection?

My mother lives in Toledo and one of her neighbors said she heard gangs are soliciting money fir protection, She said for $50 / month they would protect you and your property. I was appalled by this but then I gave it some thought and I think that is a small price to pay for protection with the upcoming police layoffs. There is a large number of Toledoans
scared so it is not so hard to believe.

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The people of northwest Ohio are the sons and daughters of immigrants.Those ahead of us came to this area and with their hands worked the soil and created lives in a harsh environment... a swamp. The women of World War II made the factories hum with efficiency and the men achieved victory by repairing B-25's, tanks, weapons in the field with ingenuity and guts. Honor and valor are celebrated quietly because of the cost of attainment. There should be not One nickel paid to any group of thugs who mistake kindness for weakness. The Republic will survive.


this is so hilarious.

and if I didn't see what has happened to my beloved hometown, I wouldn't have believed this.

but I do.

Some years ago in the Old West End, the neighbors banded together and hired an armed securty company to patrol the streets. Crime dropped dramatically. There were no police layoffs during that time, the police weren't very good. One neighbor who joined said that when he called the police about youths destroying his property, the police said that he should have not moved into the neighborhood in the first place. They also said he was getting what he deserved. The police did nothing so he joined the security group. I do not condone these gangs soliticing money for protection. Carty definitley is the blame for this fisaco. His actions have given the green light to crimminals to vitimize all of us in some way.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at


Thanks for the chuckle of sanity in this thread of maniacal urban legends, Handbanana.

Get some training, arm yourself, and protect YOURSELF.

Carty is a tool, everyone knows that, but how is the economy going into the toilet his fault? The city is broke, how is he supposed to pay for police, fire and other services when the city doesn't have the money?
He could do what 0bama, the great messiah is doing, print more money and go deeper in debt, but I think it's illegal for a mayor to do that.

"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni

Joe, Oddly enough I was the guy who implemented and oversaw that operation in the Old West End in the late 70's. I was in Chief John Mason's office explaining how it would function along with the two companies' owners, and the Chief left the meeting within eyesight to his private restroom and took a few swigs of malox. Private companies are currently being utilized in Oakland and New Orleans.

I remember who recruited me and the monthly fee I paid was worth it. I'm going to start speaking to my neighbors to obtain such a service for our neighborhood if the layoffs occur. The irony of this is Chief Navarre lives almost next door to me.

Is it time to call BSC

If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

Sure it sounds good till some kid throws a rock at one of their Humvees and sunddenly you have 10 of their guys firing automatic weapons randomly at anything that moves.

What main intersection is this neighborhood in? Curoius to know how close it is to mine. Thanks

how vigilantee's start. First of all instilling fear in people is counterproductive to living in a sane and safe society. I live in the inner city, have good communication with teens and have not heard anything like this newest rumor probably started by people who don't live in Toledo and are friends with the police who also don't live in Toledo.

On an average day I see 8 police cars roaming the streets where I drive. Every city is laying off policemen so why should Toledo be any different?

Most people I know would rather suffer the consequences than call the police anyway. Because when you call the police, the caller might end up going to jail, getting tazed or suffer some other negative response.

That actually happened to me when I called the police.
A drunken man was trying to dismantel my yard light, so I called the police. The drunken man told the police I was not being nice to him, so the police threatened to arrest me, for disorderly conduct and interferring with police business, because I insisted that the drunken man be stopped from tearing out my lamp post. The police let the man go and I had to spend 75 dollars to have the lamp post repaired.

It will be interesting to see how the business community handles this reduction of police in Toledo. They have often been behind the efforts to increase taxes to provide police protection. The reasoning is that it makes people less afraid to do business if an area is "safe". With the movement of business out of Toledo, or at least out of the older, less affluent parts of town it might be decided that police protection for their areas is not worth the expense. But they cannot continue to tax those areas for "protection" that is no longer there. There will have to be a draw down from all areas of town. Some areas will be relatively safe even after the draw down. But the older, less affluent areas may experience an increase in crime unless the residents of those areas arm themselves, and protect their lives and property.

Old South End Broadway

less affluent part of town that I live in there is a proliferation of police presence. Marked and unmarked. force.

Old South End Broadway

According to the news media, the Guardian Angels are now in Toledo patroling areas that are known to be problem areas. The two areas being patroled so far are Highland Park and Lagrange Street.

Mary Brandeberry

i live near highland park, and have seen graffiti twice this week with gang signs. it's nice to look out my kitchen window and see graffiti. these are sad times. :( anyone else see anything?

I too live in the HP area and have noticed a rapid increase in gang activity. The bridge on South street and S. Detroit both inflicted with gang graffiti. Garage doors, store fronts, road sign, and even a minivan with what was obviously not a gang member behind the wheel with the custom gangster art adorning the side. I have had it. I would walk the neighborhood with others to kick theses asses but they are just teenagers and I will end up in jail. With a skeleton Police Force there is no one to respond if we call because graffiti is a considered a prank and no violence involved therefore it's a low priority. house is up for sale or rent. I have had it. Moving to the burbs. Goodbye Toledo.

If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

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