The contrast between the haves and have nots is big around the world. I just spent a week in Manila , then a week in rural Philippines. There are a couple of huge 5 story malls there in the city, then outside there are dirty children begging- there is no welfare system. It wasn't as bad as the slumdog movie , but the contrast is big. The prices are close to ours, food is cheaper, goods are higher. The wages are very low, a store clerk makes around 300-350 $ U.S. equivalent per month. The family I stayed with in Manila has no hot water, bathes with a bucket, no functioning shower . There is no toilet seat- I saw this in nice restaurant bathrooms too. This is in a nice apartment with a security guard and locked gate. We did visit a neighbor whose husband travels overseas for work. Their small house was very nice with nice kitchen . The rural setting was poorer, crops and animals for sustenance, not even one toy for the children, but everyone seemed content, kids having fun.
Could Toledo drop to this level? We still have it good here in comparison. Are we and the 3rd world slowly equalizing?
No personal car, no hot water. Is Toledo headed this way?
By cogitate - Posted on April 18th, 2009
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...were the author stated that we measure our economic well-being by what our immediate neighbors have. If we have no chicken in a pot, and the neighbor on each side has one, then we may well feel impoverished. Poverty in the "Old South End" of Toledo is measured between those who have cars, and those who do not. Those who can eat at Bob Evans, and those who content themselves with the local McD's. We may see someone on TV who drives a Bentley, but if the kids next door have an Xbox, and our kids do not then they probably feel "poor".
The middle-class who strives for a house in the countryside, and complains about the cost of gas and the drive to work has no relation to the Filipino trying to feed an empty belly. Yet each suffers unhappiness and joy.
Old South End Broadway
Well said, OSEB. Your words verge on poetry. I hope Cogi came back to America a happy man.
NormCash1
Why would Toledo, just and only Toledo, possibly be at risk of falling into the same economic dire straits as Manila in the Phillipines?
Are you trying to make a larger argument about where we as a country are headed financially? That would make perhaps more sense, but in any event, no, we're not going to end up with no personal cars, no hot water, no functioning shower and ---gasp!!---no toilet seats.
A global economy creates a global standard of living by default.
Looked around the globe lately?
but dammit, I'm keeping my toilet seat somehow, no matter what.
Nope...most of the world doesnt have toilets...or toilet paper....you going to have to give that up too....
Lots of people in the world use a bidet for cleaning up after toilet use.
Have a nice Bidet!
(never too old for toilet humor I say)
Yes I understand....and some parts of the globe use squat toilets...but...
"We can’t keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times…and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That’s not leadership"
Or keep using toilet paper and killing Gaia....
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/toilet-paper-and-other...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/science/earth/26charmin.html?hp
What a pain in the ass eh?
*grin*
This is a particular commentary on Toledo for two reasons.
One, the Lords of Capital have long given upon on this city. Maintaining an industrial city is too much of a cost. That's why the Capitalist scum prefer to move around a lot. They rely now on municipalities, states and nations to subsidize their investment phase, and by the time the real maintenance costs hit, they just cash out and leave the expensive, polluted ruins to the suckers of last resort (i.e. the taxpayer) to cover. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Two, there are enough people in Toledo who have already foregone things which are commonly considered a First World standard. Health insurance. Late-model vehicles. Maintained housing. Phone service. Hot water. Even winter heat.
I've mentioned before that Toledo is like having Albania inside the USA. We're there already, and those who express confusion about this assertion are merely part of the DENIAL part of that equation. As a culture, we already suspect that we're "falling and can't get up". Our industrial power has collapsed beyond all doubt, and we have nothing to replace it with. A few major factories keep a few thousand of us employed, and health care and government occupy another few thousand ... leaving our 100K households largely unsupported by prosperity. They are left to the tender mercies of retail operations and small businesses, which are fickle and unfair to workers in the extreme. So, drugs are dealt, taxes are cheated on, and building codes seem more ignored than otherwise. Gergen had it right when he effectively laughed at what he saw when he passed through Toledo. We're rusty and useless in the ever decreasing circle of monied prosperity.
Since we can't actually force people to invest in Toledo, you'd THINK that Toledoans would recognize this de-capitalized future and prepare for it. Think of it like preparing Toledo to be retired. You already know your income will be either reduced or fixed, and your expenses will rise dramatically in certain areas. That future demands a reduction in overheads costs ... GOVERNMENT, in other words.
But instead of dispensing with these layers of expensive, oppressive government, we've been doing the opposite. Ironically so, we even came up with the idea of an "economic development" government -- sort of like planning to continue working a career once you retire. But the energy isn't there, and these old bones have to stop running the Rat Race and start settling down into those reduced functions they can support.
In a sane society, you'd have to own your own home in order to properly prepare for retirement. So we taxpayers have to do the same with Toledo -- WE have to own it, not the spend-spend-spend politicians and the rich developers like Dillin who back them. Government functions have to be minimized to the level of maintenance, not "growth" and all that partying crap. Other than enforcement and maintenance and collections, there just can't be ANY other function performed by city and county government. It doesn't even require a mayor. The council can meet weekly or monthly for an evening, public meeting of oversight on what a small set of city supervisors have done for the last period and will do for the next.
If a corporation of about 3000 people can control costs, then WE can do it, as shareholders in our city corporation.
In conclusion: REMEMBER that even if you disagree with my characterizations of Toledo, you cannot sanely disagree with the concept of FISCAL CONSERVATISM. The expense of government is too high, and must be reduced since we as taxpayers have every right to ensure that. We DESERVE value for our money. WE are the customers, not the fucking developers and not the hell-spawned politician class.
and run it like a business. TBT should only endorse someone who will promise to eliminate the mayor job, and be a Chief operating officer.
Toledo City, Philippines
Detroit, Michigan
There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at