I could not believe that someone in the City said this, but they did:
"People think they're paying [taxes] to get every street plowed and salted, but they're paying for the service we provide."
So basically that means that we pay for whatever services they decide to deliver? That is strange, I thought I was paying assessments to have roads plowed and leaves cleaned. I guess I was mistaken to think that if I am assessed this that I can expect my roads plowed and leaves cleaned. I guess I should just be quiet because what it really means is they will do what ever they want to do because we are paying for the service they provide. Makes sense huh? I have no clue why people accept this type of attitude.
The City has only done a good job plowing during the big snow storm 1.5 weeks ago. Since then, there has not been much done. On days like today, sending a plow down the street will get it closer to pavement and the sun will work on the rest. I don't think I would ask to have our road salted. Our leaves are still out and we have not had them officially cleaned this year.
But I do take comfort that the City is now paying money to study to put a solar field on the landfill and that we are paying for Carenet. I am thankful that we have such brilliant leaders on city council like Joe McNamara who sure have their priorities set right. With these important priorities, I am astonished that people are leaving the area.
Read the rest of the Blade story at:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090124/NEWS16/90...

The quote is a great example of the brain drain.
"I am thankful that we have such brilliant leaders on Council like Joe McNamara who sure have their priorities set right. With this type of priorities, I am astonished that people are leaving the area."
Unfortunately the city has A LOT of work ahead of it and there are A LOT of people who would like nothing better than to disrupt that work.
MikeyA
Explain to all of us how you can justify spending money on solar fields when the City is saying they can't salt roads? I would love to hear how that is brain drain.
Brain drain is ignoring the problems while pursuing your own pet projects to the detriment of Toledo. But the almost 60k they spent on solar field engineering and Carenet, which they do not need to do, could have added a cop on the street for a year or could have bought about 800 tons of road salt and prevented Robert Wray from getting into an accident.
But council people like McNamara have to nurture their own pet projects to the detriment of Toledo. Sounds like the ones disrupting the city work are on city council.
So unless you are saying that Little Joe is one of the ones getting in the way, I would love to hear how the money can be spent on Carenet and Solar fields, which little Joe has advocated for, when the City can't even salt roads. He is the prime example of what is wrong with the area and why we can't get any better after so many years of rule by people with the same thoughts as him.
I'm not advocating it. I'm saying any work done in the city for the good is always countered by those who would rather push something that makes no sense.
MikeyA
I'm no journalist, but I thought when someone is being quoted, that it's customary to mention the name of the person being quoted. So, who said that and what position does this person hold in the city of Toledo? Just curious.
from David Welch, commissioner of the city division of streets, bridges, and harbors.
I added the link to the Blade article.
I live on a street upon which many school busses travel, and my street has been a solid sheet of ice for weeks. So much for the virtues of Welch's Phase 1-2-3-4 street program.
I think that intersections are much more important to maintain than long stretches of level paved sidestreets, as evidenced in the examples mentioned in the article. Many, many more accidents occur at intersections than in the middle of a street or highway, and if salt conservation is an issue, then I would rather see every intersection down to bare pavement than I would every square inch of a "Phase I" or "Phase II" street.
http://historymike.blogspot.com/
I have yet to see a snowplow go down my street this winter. Many places you can only guess where the curb is.
"We're all riding on the Hindenburg, no sense fighting over the window seats"-Richard Jenni
It's really agitating.
I can not complain. My street is plowed from curb to curb, salted and bare down to the blacktop! I Feel Lucky. Obviously a neighborhood city worker lives nearby or something.
But, the street is still falling apart!
www.takebacktoledo.com
Here's to the crazy ones, the rebels, the troublemakers, the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at
As you already know, I am still waiting for my leaves to get picked up!
David Welch was just interviewed on WTOL, stating that he "guarantees" some form of a snow plow will touch "every residential street" after four inches of snow. His pants are on fire.
Any bets that his street is plowed?
MikeyA