All fired up: Gun owners rush to buy guns for fear Obama, Democrats will curb gun rights

MIDLOTHIAN, Va. (AP) - When 10-year-old Austin Smith heard Barack Obama had been elected president, he had one question: Does this mean I won't get a new gun for Christmas?

That brought his mother, the camouflage-clad Rachel Smith, to Bob Moates Sports Shop on Thursday, where she was picking out that special 20-gauge shotgun — one of at least five weapons she plans to buy before Obama takes office in January.

Like Smith, gun enthusiasts nationwide are stocking up on firearms out of fears that the combination of an Obama administration and a Democrat-dominated Congress will result in tough new gun laws.

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From the article, quoting Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence: "I guess if you're a dangerous person you might want to run out there and buy some more [guns], but otherwise you should be OK."

Translation: "If you're one of us, you're OK. Otherwise you won't be allowed to own firearms."

Since Obama is pretty much the poster child for the Brady Bunch, and since VP elect Joe Biden was one of the authors of the useless assault weapons ban, and given HItlery Klinton's preferences on gun control I think it's possible that our new president will try and get the second amendment repealed, then do a house to house search and confiscate all firearms.

At a minimum, ammunition will be sharply regulated and supplies curtailed.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Obama has already tried but failed to do just that on a state level when he was an Illinois State Senator. Of course he will try to do it on a national level. To think he will not is short sighted.

" ...In 2003 while serving in the Illinois State Legislature, Obama voted in favor of a bill in the Judiciary Committee that would make it illegal to "knowingly manufacture, deliver or possess" a so-called "semi automatic assault weapons," the NRA researchers learned. Under this bill, a firearm did not actually have to be semi-automatic to be banned. According to definitions in the bill, all single shot and double barreled shotguns 28 gauge or larger and many semi automatic shotguns of the same size would be banned as assault weapons. This definition would have banned a large percentage of the shotguns used for hunting, target shooting and self defense in the United States. The bill also would have banned hundreds of models of rifles and hand guns. Any Illinois resident who possessed one of these commonly used guns ninety days after the effective date would have to destroy the weapon of device render it permanently inoperatable, relinquish it to a law enforcement agency or remove it from the state. Anyone who still possessed a banned gun would have been subject to a felony sentence.

Obama may argue the bill was poorly drafted, said Cox, but Barak Obama, who brags about being a Constitutional Law Professor and the former president of the Harvard Law Review voted for it. "That's pathetic," said Cox."

Source: Shotgun News, November 10, 2008; "Time to Bury the Guns or Load Them?", by Vin Suprynowicz. Volume 62, Issue 32, page 36 - 37

10-year-olds get guns for Christmas?

Young boys used to get .22cal rifles for Christmas in the past. Even as young as 8. Naturally, their use was supervised.

I used to shoot a .22 at stacked beer cans and other assorted objects all the time in wilds of Centre County, Pa., when I was around 10. It just was never considered my gun. Maybe its just semantics...

And did killing those poor, defenseless beer cans help make you the gun loving serial killer you are today?

As I recall the old days it was perfectly legal for a child to own a firearm. Ammo sales were strictly controlled. We used to be able to go down to Janney's Hardware and by about anything we might like. Now everyone needs to be licensed, back ground checked and registered several different ways.

Violent crime is up since then. Can't understand why, with all the different laws and such.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

there was a creek that ran behind the stump where we used to stack the cans and extra points were given when a shot would flip a can in the air and land in the water.

I do remember the extra thrill when I was trusted to be alone at the picnic table with the .22 and the ammo while adults were inside playing cards or eating or doing whatever...

Anyway, Jack, nobody's taking your guns away, unless you get all piss-drunk some night and decide to shoot out the street lights in Madison.

I think it's possible that our new president will try and get the second amendment repealed, then do a house to house search and confiscate all firearms.

You've said some stupid things, but this may take the cake.

Pink Slip
A "threat to our political system"

Pink Slip

You've said some stupid things, but this may take the cake.

Go piss up a rope.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

... about the government banning guns or confiscating guns then why are they going to licensed gun dealers where the transaction is reported to the Feds when a background check is done? Shop at gun shows with private dealers or in the classifieds, not at gun shops (that's right - use that 'loop hole' before it gets closed). They can't take what they don't know you have.

We're more concerned that the government tries to pretend the Second Amendment doesn't exist.

Also, my experience at gun shows in the last couple of years has been that dealers also run those background checks, to comply with the law. Only private sales avoid government scrutiny, and that's still not true when we consider machine guns.

Overall, the attitude of thinking gun owners like Madjack and myself is that we're trying to gently remind the government that we will secure our rights the easy way or the hard way. The easy way is for the politicians to acknowledge that the Second Amendment is the LAW OF THE LAND, hence no lesser court or jurisdiction can overturn it. The hard way is that we shoot them all.

If the politicians really want to get our guns legally (which is also the easy way), they have to start the process of Amending the U.S. Constitution, which starts in the Congress, then must be ratified by at least 38 states at one time. I always remind them in one form or another that it's a process that has been started about 11000 times since 1787, and has been successfully completed less than 30 times. So, they'd better get crackin'.

Dee Dee forgot to mention that you could buy guns from local gangs, or eliminate the middle-man and steal them from law-abiding, responsible citizens to avoid legal registration-- just like the criminals do!

Dee Dee forgot to mention that you could buy guns from local gangs

She also forgot to mention that you were an ignorant liberal troll looking for a place to post.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

I don't see why she "forgot" to mention buying from thieves, or indulging in thievery ourselves. What is the matter with you?

Also, gun registration is only a tool used to confiscate guns later. Do you need to register your mouth in order to exercise your liberty to speak? NO. So gun registration is that semi-tyrannical thing that rational gun owners should avoid.

McCaskey, I was six years old when I learned to shoot. I got my first rifle for Christmas when I was nine. It's an Ithaca M-49 in .22. It is single shot, lever action with an open hammer. It will cheerfully shoot all manner of .22 ammo except .22 magnum or stinger. My dear old Mom taught me how to shoot.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Here are the facts about Barry Sotero and his belief of "gun rights"

http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx?NavGuid=530ecfa4-ae4e-4819-97e6-...

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Any ban on "inexpensive handguns" is wrong for two reasons:

1. It's unconstitutional. Obama is just saying "fuck the U.S. Constitution".

2. Cheap guns are all the poor can afford, hence you're only ensuring they cannot defend themselves as they desire under the Second Amendment. Obama is just saying "fuck the poor".

Anyway, Jack, nobody's taking your guns away, unless you get all piss-drunk some night and decide to shoot out the street lights in Madison.

You're probably right about that. When I first moved here, my brother suggested we get a case or three of beer, sit out on the balcony and empty a few beers and shotgun shells. He figured that shooting the empty beer cans would be a kind of general invitation to the neighbors. I nixed the idea.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

above who moans about guns for kids and,then goes on to state how he had one ,and had fun with it??! Are all you leftists convoluted about what you think?! I had a gun when I was young and it was O.K.BUT,kids nowadays have them also and,that is strange,somehow??!! No wonder you leftists,have a difficult time with reason,you have no convictions other than to cry, moan,whine,and crybaby! Grow up twinks, look at your raspberries,any hair there ,or is it all scales?!

who shot and killed his father and a roomer with a gun was taught by his father how to shoot a gun. He killed his dad with pre -meditation I guess this is only one family but guns in the hands of an eight year old is scary.

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