Hillary PUMAS upset with vile T-Shirts (and lack of reporting on them)

Funny, when the Clintons were in, the media was in the tank for them. Now their supporters are getting a taste of what it feels like to have media bias.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=35605

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I need one!

Except on mine, can you take off Palin's name and put your mom's. That would be great. Thanks!

don't get your panties in a bunch!

Afraid of a woman in a leadership role. I feel sorry for their treatment of Hillary. Now they are doing the same thing. Female-phobic.

don't let tpsteacher24 actually be a teacher.

Haha...purnhrt, I was thinking the same thing. A "mom" joke?

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It's a disgusting shirt. I actually get TPSteacher's point.

If its so doggone funny with Palin's name on it then why wouldn't it be just as funny with your Mom's name on it? Or Anyone elses?

How would you like it if they were wearing Purnhrt is a C**T?

 Its different then isn't it? When it gets personal suddenly its not so fun to be calling a woman the C word.

Slambam got it right, its sexism pure and simple.

 

that shirt is pretty bad. They may think it is funny, but it is rather disgusting. It takes someone of poor character to call anyone that.

on his own wife.

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Your boy, John McCain used it...
Submitted by lentileater on Tue, 2008-10-14 11:50.
on his own wife.
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ALLEGEDLY...supposedly in front of 2-3 reporters when the two of them were strung out from a campaign (not this one). Yet, miraculously.....NO ONE has ever stepped forward to say they were one of said reporters. Strange....if they existed, you'd think some democrat would have dug them up and brought them to the public eye by now.

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"Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days."

If you've been following the election at all, you'd know that Cliff Schecter's book highlighted a McCain episode where he called his wife a C_NT in front of witnessess (poor character, eh Chris?) That these guys have shirts that say Palin is a C_NT, (while in poor taste) makes the same statement that TPSteacher24 apparently made.

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when someone who actually cares about the facts posts something like this, I will actually pay attention.

What the hell are you talking about there? You didn't like my posting this topic? It WAS factual.
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It must be a white thing because I don't even know what the word means. That word whatever it is means to you tpsteacher24, means nothing to me.

You have to hunt down every comment I make on this board and say something stupid don't you?! If you aren't careful I am gonna start calling you "El Purehate". Wait scratch that. Since you are obviously a racist like your buddy BHO. And, you say you don't know what the big deal is about being called a Cunt because "It must be a white thing", I'll just start refering to you as the "Racist Cunt Of the Swampbubbles board". I hope that's ok with you because I would want to offend you, but since YOU ARE A RACIST and the word cunt "means nothing" to you, that is how I will refer to you from now on.

If you do not know what the term means then you are either naive, ignorant or sheltered, Maybe all. And if you really do not know what it means then why would you be so upset with TPSteacher24 for a request of a T-shirt you know nothing about.

Racial, No way.
Personal hatred for TPSteacher24...most likely.

- Just the KAT, thinking out loud again.

If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

we

don't need a history lesson on that word.

all of these old Catholic University Of North Texas sweatshirts?

Try and spraypaint University of Dallas across the front of them?

Any Democrat (or for that matter, any thinking person) who laughs off such a shirt is a blindly partisan idiot who is then not entitled to complain about any similar thuggery vomited up by a wacked out McCain supporter.

And I too find it hard to believe that purnhrt claims to be ignorant of the word c*nt.

http://historymike.blogspot.com/

then maybe I can get offended.

Crazy: When did I get upset with Teacher about a t-shirt? I missed it.
Tpsteacher24: You are Crazy as in insane.
HistoryMike: you don't know me so you don't know what I know. If you were referring to me, I am not a Democrat, thinking or otherwise.

For All: I have been saying this for at least a year. Blacks and whites speak two different languages. What may be offensive to a black person, may not be seen as offensive to a white person. What may be offensive to a white person may not be offensive to a black person. I have no idea about nor the history of the "c" word as I will call it. Maybe someone can fill in the blanks. No pun intended.

And yet you do not condemn the use of this blatantly offensive word. You can tell by the reaction that it is offensive. And, unless you live in a third world country, I do not find it possible that "blacks and whites speak two different languages" when we all live in America.

For someone who has marched for equal rights for women, I find your actions to be hypocritical to the point of transparency. You love Democrats so much that you are willing to compromise your integrity and get in bed with offensive sexist pigs just so you fit in.

We all know what 4 letter words are universally offensive. We all know that a previous thread was edited by ChrisMyers due to it's use of the N**** word.

So what you are saying is total and complete BS. You know that word is offensive to women. OR, using your logic, if I do not find the N*** word offensive since I am white, that means I can use it freely. Correct? After all, I "speak a different language" than the language everyone else in America speaks.

In short, if you as a woman allow this hatred towards other women then you are also condoning the use of racial bias and prejudice towards other groups of people. Not being offended by vial sexist remarks is the same as allowing them.

I am learning that it is OK to hate people who do not think the same way as I do. And you are being the champion of that cause.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

that this word is "blatantly offensive." Everyone has gotten all up in arms because I don't know the history of the word and why it is so offensive. You all have a mob mentality. Instead of explaining the word (because I don'r know it) you want to jump me, throw stones, call names and act like ignorant children.

How does using the "c" word cause hatred to all women? I don't have time to BS "you people" nor the inclination. But it is real puzzlling to me how this word causes such craziness to come out of you. What does this word mean to you? I can tell you what the "N" word means to me.

Libs, can you tell me what Democrats that I love so much? My best friend of 40 years is a Republican. I have Republican friends, Independent friends, Green friends, etc. Who do I want to fit in with? ROFLOL!!!! Certainly not you!

I went thru this post, and after reading all of purnhrt's comments I'm not quite sure why everyone is piling on. I don't think she said anything offensive. I'm sure there are words used in the African-American community that some of you (myself included) are not familiar with.

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I have absolutely no uncertainty as to what words offend people and what words do not offend people.

That includes my friends who happen to be black. They are more than happy to enlighten me as to what a words definition means to them just as I define word meanings if needed.

And I have found almost NO words that are not deemed offensive and/or racial by me which are also not deemed offensive and/or racial by my friends who happen to be black.

So what I find intriguing is that Purnhrt has previously denied being a racist and also denied being a sexist.

Yet it appears to be common knowledge to everyone that this word is extremely offensive to all women of all colors that I know. Common knowledge to everyone except Purnhrt.

Which leads me to believe that Purnhrt actually does NOT have any close friends who are white and especially does not have any acquaintances who are white women.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

For the record, the C-word's roots are considered offensive in American culture because of its association with female genitalia AND prostitution. "Palin is a Vagina" just doesn't cut it as a substitute; the C-word is meant to offend and defame.

The best material I could find on its origin: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=cunt&searchmode=none
(Caution: you may be offended at some of what you read here).

This definition in the Online Etymology Dictionary says that it has been considered offensive since the 17th century. I do have some British-born pals who use it in a completely different context, and were surprised when I was offended at the way they used it. So, what some of you have said is likely true--our offense at the term could be cultural.

Naming --and name calling--are equated with power, and we can trace naming power through history to men...all the way back to Adam. It's disappointing that women would stand for this treatment of any woman, or any person, for that matter.

it is absoultely amazing the assumptions that you jump to. It may be common knowledge to you and your friends that this word is offensive to women of all colors. I doubt that, simply because it is not offensive to me and the friends that I have including my adult daughters, one on a college campus.

Also you know nothing about me or my friends, you don't know the color, race or creed of them or their political affiliations. You just make assumptions and attempt to incite people on this site who already are incitable, such as the tps teacher.

Now that I know the origin (thanks to HelenWheales) and the connotation of the word, I still don't know that I would be offended. Now call me a "b" or a "ho" and you might have a fight!

What makes it all so hard to buy that you don't have some understanding of the C word is your comment to TPSTeacher's comment to another poster who suggested that there was nothing at all wrong with the shirts by commenting that they (TPSteach) would wear the same shirt only replacing Gov. Palin's name with the poster's mother's name.

 

If you didn't understand the meaning of the word they why would you find TPSTeacher's response so bad?

"...b" or a "ho" and you might have a fight!"

Using your statement, I am actually able to better illustrate the point I am making.

Since I live in America, I talk with Americans and interact with Americans, I know that calling a lady, any lady, a "B" or a "H" is offensive just as in calling a lady a "C" is offensive. It never occurred to me that it is permissible to be offensive to one race and not another.

Unfortunately you seem to think that there are two Americas. Yours and mine. That is not true no matter how much people scream that there is.

And that one America has "rules". "Rules" that neither you nor I made but we all should live by. "Rules" like, if you are going to a job interview don't wear a T-shirt with swear words on it and expect to get hired. If you pass gas in public, people will probably be offended. Picking your nose at a stoplight is gross. (Hopefully you get the point of the "rules") You and I did not make those "rules" but we all know about them, right?

So, as part of the "rules" for decent society, a person should avoid talking offensively to anyone. And, since this is America, those "rules" of offensive language are most often universal.

For instance, your two examples above. You and I both know that those words are offensive. That offense to those words transcends race, gender, age etc. Apparently those words are more offensive to you, but I wouldn’t know. I wouldn’t know because in America, a person with character would not even approach a situation where those words could be used.

Again, I truly do not believe that you have never heard the “C” word or know its meaning. How can I know that calling someone an “H” or a “B” is offensive when apparently those terms are defined by race as you stated?

And why isn't the inverse true? If I, a middle-aged, bald white guy, knows words that are offensive to a black woman, why doesn't a black woman know what words are offensive to me?

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Language NSFW

 

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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, andfive times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles Bukowski

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Who said it first doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't belong on Tshirts of someone's supporters.

 

Shame someone from here didn't get a chance to meet Obama while he was in and to ask why he wasn't denouncing his supporters use of that term. I think that comes in a bit worse then a husband grumbling about his wife.

 

 

BTW: What ever it is you posted is just showing up as a big white box to me.

 

THAT'S RACIST!!
lol

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Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo

You've taken the title out of context, but you'll see what it refers to after watching the clip. The best part is a minute in.

The video was for laughs but shouldn't we be more outraged that a candidate might have used the C-word to describe his wife? Has McCain personally denied that he said "At least I don't plaster on the make up like a trollop, you (redacted)!"? 

And what is a trollop? Should I have censored that as well?

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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, andfive times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles Bukowski

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

"Dear God, don't let tpsteacher24 actually be a teacher," has absolutely nothing to do with the "c" word that has you all up in arms. Whatever you believe is up to you.

I have nothing invested in any realtionship on this blog, that I need to lie about anything to any of you.

Who made you the friendship police? And which law states tha I am mandated to have a close friend who is white, and that I should have an acquaintance that is a white woman. This blog and comments made here are excellent reasons for me to stick to my own kind. :=)

+++++Which leads me to believe that Purnhrt actually does NOT have any close friends who are white and especially does not have any acquaintances who are white women.+++++

are offensive to black people but are not offensive to white people. Then let's make a list of words that are offensive to white people but are not offensive to black people.

Offensive to black but not offensive to white:

(I'll start.......................)

1.Nappy headed ho's.
2.

Offensive to whites but not offensive to blacks:
1.The "c" word.
2.

Your turn!

The way that comes across seems to read that as a black woman you'd be more offended by someone cracking on the state of your hair then to being called a plain old "ho". 

Personally if someone called me a Ho... nappy headed or not I'd be offended.

 

As for the C word not being offensive to blacks... I'm gonna have to check with some of my coworkers before I take your word on that one. I've got a really good feeling that more then a few of them aren't going to be agreeing with you on that one.

 

you do that when you get to work.

No one wants to play?

Offensive to blacks but not to whites:
1.Nappy headed ho
2.coon
3.

Offensive to whites but not to blacks:
1.The "c" word
2.prick
3.

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Correct, no one wants to play.

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I WON!

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You are a legend in your own mind. ;^)

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So, everyone did all of a sudden seem to fly off of the handle. About what? It all started after the TPSteacher comment, it seems. Why? OMG. Be real about this. A teacher, one who who influences children, probably shouldn't be caught playing the dozens. The T-shirts may be offensive to some... but is it what it says that's offensive or the mere fact that the people were 'against' her and those of you who flew off the handle are 'for' her? From what I read, the history of the word and its offense is due to it referring to woman's body part. 1. I don't recall ever being told/taught that I have a c-word. 2. Would it have been ok if it would've said "Sarah Palin is a 'B-word' (female dog)?? She did compare herself to a pitt bull. Probably not. It's against her, so people are mad. Last, why should Obama say anything about them? Why does he need to be held accountable for some other adults who very well may have their own personal reasons for not liking her or thinking that she is what she is... It might not not be the fact that they support Obama that they wore them. They could have been neighbors that she or her children pissed off or even men that she had affairs with who now don't like her for that matter. McCain didn't come forward and apologize for the hostile/racial cartoon that came out about Barack Obama and his wife. Nobody was required to answer to that. She doesn't come public and apologize for her hate rallies. It's the regular difference that's made in America between people of color and those born with the 'priviledge'.

Purnhrt,
Perhaps nobody wants to play your game because they don't know or care what offends blacks. This due in part to the 'priviledge'.

Being that you are a connoisseur of offensive words and which American is offended by them, let me add a little something to your war chest. Did you know that “American” gay women (that I know) take offense when they are called a “lady”? They would much rather be called women.

I don’t know who you talk to or interact with on a daily basis but the climate of America in 2008 is divided along racial and gender lines.

You could very well be a bald white guy and maybe you really don’t know but “nappy headed ho” is racial whereas B**ch or the “B” word is not. There is no instance where I said that the “b” word or the “h” word were racial words. What I said was “Now call me a "b" or a "ho" and you might have a fight!

You took it to the next level and thinking that I am black jumped again to a conclusion.

did you get a chance to talk to your co-workers? What conclusion to did you come to? Did any of them agree with me? Or did they agree with you?

what happened? Did you get laid off? Did you get a chance to ask your co-workers?

I'm still gainfully employed

Yes I did in fact ask my cowokers and they all agreed that they would in infact be quite pissed off about being called a "C" word.
Not one of them claimed to have never heard the word or did not know what it referred to.

but I will have to take you at your word since i don't know you and will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are telling the truth. However, I also questioned women that i know and when i asked, "what would you do if someone called you a c**t and most said, "what is that?" Maybe I was misprounouncing the word! :=)

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