• I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
  • I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
  • I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, they’ll come over here, and I don't want to have any guns in the house to shoot them with.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.
  • I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.
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    I'm voting Democratic because )there are people less fortunate then me who need my money more than i do,* higher taxes are what they pay in europe and they seem to be doing pretty well, *i want a car i have to plug in every night,* gas prices aren't high enough yet there is an internet gap

    Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

    there are people less fortunate then me who need my money more than i do

    Like stock brokers, CEOs, etc…

    "there are people less fortunate then me who need my money more than i do"

    No, but I hear there are a few less fortunate companies that need $700 BILLION in welfare money, at least according to our current Republican president.

    Did the education system fail you Fred? Can you at least write a structured sentence when you're being sarcastic?

    By the way, I'd love a plug-in car. I'm looking forward to that Chevy Volt.

    Considering the 13:41 posting time, he may have just gotten

    back from a... a....a power lunch ! 

    Knock it off with the grammar police, please.

    Bottom line:



    1) My Union elected shop steward told me to

    2) Because John Robinson Block and his Toledo Blade said I had to and even supplied me with a handy cut-out cheat sheat in the morning paper.

    Don't blame me,
    I didn't vote for a

    it will piss you fear mongering Republicans off.

    and it will bring me great joy....

    This year, the fear mongering goes to:





    Need I go on? It is so obvious that Democrats think they can get elected by wearing cardboard signs saying THE END IS NEAR! and putting tin-foil hats on your heads.

    You, and the other Democrats, make me LAUGH along with the rest of the world who is laughing at you.

    Don't blame me,
    I didn't vote for a

    You haven't ranted enough to fully demonstrate the type of people Brian intents to anger with his vote. Perhaps you could mention your belief that braindead fetuses should be brought to full term but Texas can execute retards. Or bring up something about how the illegal immigrants are stealing all the good jobs, like harvesting vegetables and day laboring. 


    "Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, andfive times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -CharlesBukowski

    There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

    "illegal immigrants are stealing all the good jobs, like harvesting vegetables and day laboring."

    Here is the TRUTH that you fail to mention.

    "Federal officials on Tuesday revised upward to 595 the number of suspected illegal immigrants arrested this week in a raid on a Laurel, Miss., factory, making it the largest immigration crackdown on a United States workplace in recent years. "

    "During the early morning blitz, agents also took into custody up to 350 employees who had been working at Michael Bianco Inc., a waterfront factory that employs about 500 people, predominantly immigrants from Guatemala and El Salvador."

    "A total of 65 people were arrested when the search warrant was served on the business about 9:30 a.m. - 23 on suspicion of identity theft; five on criminal warrants; and 37 who are suspected of being illegal immigrants, according to sheriff's reports."

    Those FACTORIES that were raided were not employing "day labor". That was UNION FACTORY work. And, as a loyal Democrat, YOU SHOULD BE SUPPORTING YOUR UNION BROTHERS.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for selling out your fellow Democrats by giving their jobs away to low paid ILLEGAL workers.

    Shall I go on? Or are you smart enough to be embarassed that you are a TRAITOR to your country, your fellow Americans, your fellow Democrats and to UNION MEMBERS EVERYWHERE?

    Don't blame me,
    I didn't vote for a

    Now do "Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a Muslim".


    "Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, andfive times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -CharlesBukowski

    There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

    Just wondering what you do believe in.

    Besides "Global Warming", the redistribution of working peoples paychecks, besides the nanny-state.

    Anything? Anything at all? Do you have an opinion that is actually your own? Have you put any thought or research into whatever your thought process is? Or do you just follow the crowd?

    Maybe you think you got your "knowledge" when you were on that grassy knoll where the 2nd Kennedy shooter was, and Elvis came down in a UFO from Area 51 and told you what to think.

    However, you are right about one thing. It is alot of fun making you look like a moron. I only wish it was more of a challenge.

    Don't blame me,
    I didn't vote for a


    You totally misunderstood the point of this exchange. You've also stumped me, because I can't think of anything less coherent than your latest response.

    And for the record, the Kennedy Assassination was clearly the work of The Pentaverate.




    "Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, andfive times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -CharlesBukowski

    There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

    Libs, in caps, show me where I stated I was a democrat? Show me where I stated I was "pro-union"?

    You can't because I didn't. Democrats are idiots and unions have way outlived their usefulness. BOTH ARE DRIVING THIS COUNTRY INTO POVERTY!


    And what cracks me up is now Republicans and their asskissers are calling for Palin to step down and allow another nominee to be picked.

    Smokescreening fool, I'm glad immigration is finally doing their job and arresting these menial labor workers because it opens the door for welfare receipients to earn their due. Being personally involved with the immigration process for over three years, I'm glad the money I paid into this ICE program is paying off.

    Now, what was that about calling me a traitor? Come on Libs, don't pull a El Moron and type tripe. I need to debate someone whose intellect is listed higher than "infancy".

    sure you do.

    Like you are 'el intellecto'.

    You think we are all beneath your 8th grade intellectual capacity, don't you ?

    earth to Brian...earth to Brian...

    Go back to earlier versions of your dialogue(?) in Toledo Talk where Wade Kapsukiewicz and many others blew your obstinate ass out of the water. Real humor there ! You fancy yourself as a real debater ? You don't even know the meaning of some of the words you use.

    You use foul language to get effect, but all that does is show you for who you really are - a Galena thug with an 8th grade education that married a wealthy foreigner after he was ran out of Toledo by the authorities who now lives in Florida and tries to look down on the world with his negative comments.
    Negative, negative, negative.

    And you have continued this crap for years.

    Look in the mirror.

    just can't just ignore the post, huh retard?

    I've purposely avoided posting on anything you've posted and have waited on purpose to have someone else post just so my post dosen't even "touch" yours to make my point, and you just troll everything I say.

    I think the point has been made.

    grow up Gary.

    don't pull an el Moron..."

    Yeah, you don't start anything, do you ?
    Grow up, Brian.

    Look in the mirror.

    you are truly a douchebag, and if voter ever finds out who you truly are, she too will avoid you, just like that alleged bailiff wife you claimed you had LOL

    I speak facts.

    I have yet to indulge any kind of debate with you, seeing you've resorted to using lies that only you conjured up and believe in.

    So, based upon that fact alone, I stand by my statement: " Come on Libs, don't pull a El Moron and type tripe. I need to debate someone whose intellect is listed higher than "infancy".

    It's clearly based upon fact, and each time you troll each comment I make, you prove me correct.

    change yer diaper, it's full of beer again

    on Ontario last Friday.

    Dudes were sitting on the porch, and one was washing a car.
    I asked if anyone ever heard of you.

    The laughing and commentary was something you needed to hear if you ever want to get a true perspective of what your 'friends' think of you.

    Look in the mirror.

    the only person believing in what you say is you.

    Tough talker now that I'm back in Florida lol

    but about this topic, do you think you're intellectually ept to contribute to the thread or are you going to continue to bore people with your chicken shit antics

    if you were that important, Gary, I'd have made an effort, but got what I wanted anyway.

    So keep up the idiocy, you're doing a fine job.

    and the nerve of calling me a troll lol

    Are you two at it AGAIN?

    If the 2 of you don't straighten up and try to get along, you're both gonna go to your rooms with NO TV and NO COMPUTER!

    Kids, just try to remember the old saying: Sticks & stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me.....errrr....wait.....wrong one...gimme a minute.....

    I'll bet the 2 of you were married to each other at one time!

    Yup - ya'll fight like a divorced couple!


    I flagged like you asked of me and I followed thru.

    even told you I'd avoid him and I did

    but he wouldn't let up

    and you allowed it.

    the site administrator here is an empty suit.

    Feel free to post...or comment...whatever you want.

    The only oversite that goes on here is with political 'fairness,' whatever the hell that's supposed to be.

    that is so humorous from someone who posts anonymously. Thanks for the laugh and of course you don't know what fairness is.

    if the suit fits....

    And seeing a principal threaten his staff through legal action, why would anyone want to use their real name?


    "Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, andfive times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -CharlesBukowski

    There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

    I'm not taking any sides here, although I do have an opinion. My purpose is to answer your question.

    I use my real name although I do use just my first initial and last name as a screen name here. I don't post anything under any nom de plume anywhere. Although I will admit to thinking about it from time to time when I'd like to go off on someone.

    I use my real name because it means I take responsibility for what I post. I have to ask myself if I really want to say this? Would I say it for the public domain? I realize the implications but feel that my self respect is more important. I have called people on behavior and I do realize that could make them stalk me and perhaps show up at my house with a shotgun.

    Nonetheless, if everyone used their real name, I think a lot of this crap would not be happening. Just my 2 cents.

    in the case of BrianinFla and el machico, they already know each others' real names, and yet they continue to go on here and post what they post.

    "I have called people on behavior and I do realize that could make them stalk me and perhaps show up at my house with a shotgun."

    Exhibit A of why there's no need for any blog/discussion board poster to use their actual name.

    I could care less what this site administer's 'real name' is (over on Toledo talk, very few know who 'jr' is, and it's a non-issue beyond simple curiousity). But when he began to tinker with certain posters' contributions by adding his own 'counter-post' to their work it's abundantly fair to point out this is the same person who ran for Toledo School Board and Lucas County GOP head. And he was, of course, self-editing, for his own perceived 'fairness' purposes, the comments of a liberal Democrat.

    if more people posted with their names there would be less problems here.

    Also, it would be good to know who you are given your 2 factually incorrect statements in the comment (e.g ran for lucas gop head and my own counter post). But your post is not about the facts, it is about you whining and your weak attempt to try to get people to come to your side. Nice try, but start with the facts first.

    The post I started commenting on was yours:

    I'm voting Democrat because
    Submitted by BrianInVeroFL on Mon, 2008-09-29 16:39.
    it will piss you fear mongering Republicans off.
    and it will bring me great joy....

    And I responded to your statement about "fear mongering Republicans" by pointing out the true fear mongerers going back as far as I can remember.

    Agreed that McCain is worthless and Obama is a Socialist. I would have prefered Ron Paul as the Candidate, but since he did not make it, I am now hoping that McCain/Palin win and that old fart, McCain, has a heart attack on election night so that a true Conservative can be president.

    Don't blame me,
    I didn't vote for a

    and would have gladly joined in his campaign and immersed myself in everything Ron Paul, except Ron Paul failed to get the nomination.

    Some moronic decrepit hawk and manipulator got it instead.

    and because of that move, I'm voting for "World Peace".

    When we are leaderless and rudderless across the board.

    Vote on financial bailout fails, Dow tanks 778, we have moronic Republicans saying this:

    Representative Darrell Issa, a Republican, said he was “resolute” in his opposition to the measure because it would betray party principles and amount to “a coffin on top of Ronald Reagan’s coffin.”

    And we have Nancy Pelosi (moronic as well) trying to make political hay of the whole thing and helping to cause this:

    Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate — which assailed Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets — for the defeat.
    "We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," Boehner said.
    Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the whip, estimated that Pelosi's speech changed the minds of a dozen Republicans who might otherwise have supported the plan.

    Where the F are the adults? Is there anyone home who can seize the day and grab the wheel of this thing before it gets worse?

    I'm reminded of the final scene in, I believe, "Reservoir Dogs" where there's a big standoff with everyone in a circle and everyone shoots and kills everyone else in the circle. Basically, murder-suicide.

    We're killing this country (ourselves) a little at a time.

    Thanks for posting.

    Don't blame me,
    I didn't vote for a

    I"ve never voted Democrat - never considered myself republican or democrat - and have always been disappointed in every president we've had (since I've been old enough to notice). It was a humbling experience for me to decide to vote democrat this year - because I believe global warming is a hoax, etc. - many reasons - but the vp pick of Palin decided it for me. She's embarrassing herself & I am terrified if Mccain dies in office, she'll have the nuclear codes & hold the highest office in this country. She's virtually clueless on most everything & even many republicans think she should bow out 'for the good of the country' (but she won't, because she's too full of herself). Without her notes (she's always glancing at them in interviews it seems) - she's lost. Even with her notes - her Couric interview was the most pathetic I've seen - ever.

    thanks for the post.

    as to whose post you found 'funny'...Libs or Starling?

    maybe you should be curious about the definition of a comment vs a post.

    while you allow another thread to unravel, you're getting all smarty-pants with me. Not very fair....

    Judging from your steady hands on the tiller of this website, they could use a guy with your exceptional leadership/forward-thinking abilities in Washington these days.

    Yes, Virginia - there really is a Santa Claus. He comes from Michigan and lives in Lake Tahoe and is running for President of the United States.

    He's not for McCain or Obama and is running on a single plank of protecting children.

    Here's his website:


    Here's his YouTube post making his declaration:

    No joke - I'm serious! Yay! SANTA FOR PREZ!

    Once again I come to piddle in the swamp.

    Once again I come to piddle in the swamp.

    the food supply is no longer safe. I want to be able to eat chocolate without wondering if it contains some substance that is not conducive to my digestive system.

    seeking purchases in countries that do not fall under the FDA umbrella.

    I get my chocolate, ie: Snickers/M&M, Cadbury,and Hershey's from my family in England. There the candy is made with real sugar.

    Our foods in America are so fucking pumped up with preservatives, that it explains why so many bodies buried lately are well preserved.

    come on, now.
    They were just happy she could use her money to get you to marry her to get her green card. Thats why they throw chocolate at you.

    How is this any different from the arabs that came over in the 80's to get a girl to marry them so that they could become U.S. citizens ?

    American women see right thru you. In fact, I think you even said one ran from you for years.

    Oh, yeah - 'It's her fault'.

    Look in the mirror.

    you've done run out of material

    try your call again later

    While we don't see eye-to-eye on who to vote for President, I see we can agree on this issue:

    El Mahico is a worthless troll

    Brian, can't you just ignore him. Eventually he will get tired and just go away. Besides nobody believes his BS anyhow so you shouldn't get so worked up over it.

    If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

    el mahico is probably just jealous - isn't that most men's dreams to find a beautiful rich woman who loves & marries them? Ignore him brian.

    You know any good conservative women who are rich and beautiful...and of couse single! :)

    If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

    but I'd never thought that I would ever be as fortunate to find someone so beautiful and as wonderful a person of her caliber to see through who I portrayed myself to be to see who I really am.

    And I can't blame Gary for envying that, seeing all the failures he's lived through.

    So you go on ahead, Chris, and allow this douchebag to amble about and spew his hatred. And all I can say is I tried to stop him and Chris just gave him a warning.

    real effective. lol

    Eventually (I'm hoping) that one of these 2 kids will grow up a little and realize it's a better man that is able to ignore the other one's 'button pushing' and not respond in kind.

    My money is on the kid in Florida.

    And I thought you were more perceptive than that, GG.

    Oh well.

    el mahico - 99 percent of the time (or more), it is you who starts the insults, as it was on this thread (go back & check). Don't bother responding, I am putting you on 'ignore'. The crap & hate that spews from your mouth aren't worth taking time to read, and less worth getting riled up about or taking with any seriousness. You've lost any credibility you may have had a long time ago on this forum - lots of threads that go back for some time that prove as much. I personally find you to be a creepy, stalking, mean spirited, angry person with lots of grudges & personal vendettas - possibly leaning on the edge of dangerous (you're stalking neighborhoods??).

    I have 'flagged' your last few comments in the hope that chris would take some action - it is his board. But "flag" away, nothing much seems to be done. I realize that chris has more important things to do than babysit this site - and I would not want him to babysit this site. But if he included the 'flag' option, I assumed they would serve some purpose. When I first started posting on this forum (seems ages ago), I did find you to have a wit . But that's long been burnt out from your constant hammering on people - insults, rudeness, vulgar name calling - you have an unnatural need to drag brian's private life into this forum - completely off topic & way off base - people's private lives should be treated as 'private' - unless they choose to share. Given your history of brian bashing, it'd be near impossible to tell what's true or not anyway - and given your nasty disposition (that you cloak in 'wit' that fails miserably) - I highly doubt anybody, new user or old, would believe anything you have to say anyway. Your ego seems unnaturally huge - a syndrome that usually goes hand & hand with personal insecurities or old wounds or grudges that never healed - or, delusions of grandeur that usually point to a mental illness. If you have old grudgs with brian, I urge you get help to learn to let go of the past. I don't believe in holding grudges, life is too short - and it sounds like your grudges with brian are quite dated - well past the statue of limitations or expiration date to bitch somebody out about. You don't strike me as particularly smart anymore - or informed about anything. If anything, you strike me as one of the nastiest, rudest people I know of. The fact that this time you took your nastiness to the point of poking your nose into brian's private life, past or whatever & felt the need to make public comments about what you 'think' is true - only speaks to how small & disqusting a person you really are. True or not - it is none of your business, and most certainly none of it should be presented on a public forum. The fact that you did - pushes your behaviour into "unethical" at the least. You've been put on 'ignore'. I suggest chris finds a way to silence you as well.

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