Ad attacks Obama's ties to leftist leader

By Dan Morain, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 22, 2008
A newly formed conservative political group is spending $2.8 million to air the first tough general election ad attacking Barack Obama, questioning his relationship with a founder of the 1960s terrorist group Weather Underground.

Obama's aides denounced the spot, calling it illegal. They likened it to the 2004 Swift Boat Veterans for Truth assault on John Kerry's military service, which some Democrats believe cost Kerry the election, and charged that Republican John McCain was behind it.

In fact, Christian Pinkston, a Washington-area consultant who serves as spokesman for the new nonprofit group, American Issues Project, worked on the Swift Boat campaign.

American Issues Project is a nonprofit political organization that is required to operate independently of the campaign.

Edward Failor Jr., a member of the American Issues board, is an Iowa political operative who worked for McCain's presidential campaign in the state. Failor oversaw President Bush's Iowa campaign four years ago, the first time in 20 years that a Republican carried the state.

http://www.latimes.com/business/custom/admark/la-na-ad22-2008aug22,0,513...

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Ayers was 25 when this all went down - over 30 years ago! From the little I've read, he's certainly 'redeemed' himself!

It's was the tumultuous 60's and 70's! How many of us can say we were Saints back then....ahhh...other than myself, of course!

So if Osama Bin Laden should become a peaceful professor of education like Mr. Ayers then in thirty years we should all be expected to brush off 9/11 because HEY! It was the new Millienum we were all a bit crazy back then right?

Ok so maybe thats an extreme example but personally I find it disturbing that Obama has any kind of relationship with this person.

 

Admittedly I'm not an Obama fan. I think he's a puppet. The man is a junior senator who hasn't done much of anything except run for President.  I'm bothered also by his long term association with the racist minister, and the fact that his wife made that comment about "the first time I've ever been proud to be American" and yes considered he's called her his closest counselor I find her comment telling.

Do the two even compare?

Bin Laden is the master mind of world wide terror and has neither been caught or tried and is probably being harbored by our allies.

Ayers participated in the bombing of statues and an anti Vietnam War protest.

"Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket Riot.[7] The blast broke almost 100 windows and blew pieces of the statue onto the nearby Kennedy Expressway.[8] The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, and blown up again by Weatherman on October 6, 1970.[9][8] Built yet again, the city posted a 24-hour police guard to prevent another blast.[8] He participated in the Days of Rage riot in Chicago that October, and in December was at the "War Council" meeting in Flint, Michigan."

And;

"While underground, he and fellow member Bernardine Dohrn married, and the two remained fugitives together, changing identities, jobs and locations. By 1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct (see COINTELPRO), "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers#cite_note-dtct091601-0

Bin Laden was supported and armed by previous administrations and was named one of the Freedom Fighters by President Reagan.

"Reagan increased the budget for support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin conducting terrorism against the Afghanistan government to half a billion dollars a year."

http://whitehouser.com/politics/ronald-reagan-perfect-president-real-or-...

What our own government has done with regards to arming and supplying combatants around the globe, follows us to this day.

I would be more concerned with John McCain's own "terrorist connections"---the Anthrax attacks on America, perpetrated on Americans by military scientists. What was John McCain's role in lying about this incident, and connecting it to Iraq to try and strengthen the excuse to go to war.

This would seem more important than something that happened when Obama was 8 years-old.

Pink Slip

You've already decided that Obama isn't your man. It looks like you're reaching for more excuses not to vote for him. Let’s hear why you are voting for your guy.

If you’re looking to nitpick…

How about McCain in 1999:
"It wasn't until I was deprived of her company that I fell in love with America."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/19/watch-mccain-didnt-love-a_n_108...

McCain was 31 years old when he was captured. 31. Far into adulthood. So McCain was fighting for our country, a country he didn't love. And we're supposed to respect the military service of a man who didn't love his country?

Also Cindy McCain is recovering drug addict. Who used to steel pills from poor kids she was supposed to be helping.

In the end this stuff is really just noise... We're voting for politicians who have been talking non stop for years. They and their spouses are not perfect and they're going to say stupid things...like not knowing how many houses they own.

I'm voting for someone or against someone based on whether I think they'll do a good job and how their politics and views align with my own. Not on how they or their spouse answered some minor question on interview 10 of 20 on a given day.

You've already decided that Obama isn't your man. It looks like you're reaching for more excuses not to vote for him. Let’s hear why you are voting for your guy

You're assuming that McCain is my "guy" when I actually haven't made up my mind  to vote for  anyone.
I'm actually not very happy with either one of the two main choices.
I'm actually looking into some of the 3rd party candidates because of that.

Any action other than the filing of the Writ ?

Filed on 08/13, but have heard nothing from the court nor from the City. According to Ciolek & Wicklund, it may be a few weeks before we hear anything.

I'll be keeping Maggie (Thurbers Thoughts) up to date, so keep checking her blog. I've also been mentioned several times on her radio program, so if you listen to Eye On Toledo, I'm sure she'll mention the decision big time.

Thanks for asking!

Even remember the Weather Underground or SDS, and all the others.

Hardly seems pertinent and just fishing for something to use.

Expect ads now about the Keating Five from the other camp?

The Weathermen and Students for a Democratic Society.

Dangerous Liberals that needed oversight from our government.

Anyone connected to these groups, even remotely, SHOULD be investigated. Especially Osama Obama.

This "Osama / Obama" thing is getting old.

Typical of the reactionary right. If you can't win on the issues, attack the person. It worked in 2004. Why not try it again? We were "saved" from that scary Kerry! Just look how well the nation has done in the last four years!

If you make more than 5 million a year and are therefore considered just above middle class, or don't remember how many homes you own, you might say the past 4 years have been great.

Yep, Obama has NEVER denounced this leftist TERRORIST. Has NEVER denounced his "God Da** America" hate spewing pastor.

HEY LIBS! Why don't you bring up Tom Noe again? QUICK! BEFORE THIS RADICAL TERRORIST LEFTIST FRIEND OF BARACK's RUINS OBAMA'S "reputation"?!?

Even though he is in jail, Local Democrats trot out ANY Tom Noe association for their benefit.

Need examples?
http://solondemocrats.blogspot.com/2006/09/josh-mandel-and-tom-noe.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coingate
http://www.ohiocitizen.org/moneypolitics/2006/noe.htm
http://www.toledotalk.com/cgi-bin/comments.pl/16/2188
http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/03/dean_bush_still.php
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050707/SRRARECOI...
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=4494055

Etc, etc etc

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

LibsCanPlowYou, Tom Noe and his crooked Ohio buddies have nothing to do with this.

Pink Slip

"Rezko already was a big story in Chicago, accused of influence-peddling in the Blagojevich administration and set to face trial Feb. 25. But Monday, he became national news -- and an issue in the presidential race. That's when Hillary Clinton blasted Obama for having represented "your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner-city Chicago.""

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article

Looks like your boy Barack is as crooked as your mayor and your union hack owners, PinkSlit.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

LibsWillPlowYou---

I hardly can see a comparison of Rezko and the illegal invasion of a sovereign country in which McCain played a large role in lying to the American public, leading to the deaths of over 4,000 Americans and 1,000,000 Iraqis. McCain's got blood on his hands.

Btw, I don't think Obama is anyone's "boy".

Pink Slip

This type of slamming has happened to just about every Black man I have known. Confidence is defined as cockiness, he received his college degrees by cheating or mail order, he's more interested in having sex with the females rather than doing the work, he has poor interpersonal skills, he has poor communication skills, etc. etc. etc.. The one criticism I have really enjoyed about Obama is that he is too physically fit to be President. Us fat, beer guzzling Americans can't identify with him. Frankly, his physical fitness has inspired me to spend more time in the gym. At one time I had three degrees of separation from Saddam Hussien. I knew a guy who worked for Bob Taft, who knew George Bush Senior, who knew Saddam Hussien. I guess that makes me a bad guy.

And picking insiders, long term members, lobbyists, ex-lobbyists, all that have been in and around Washington for decades.

Change or more of the same?

Any other DNC supplied "talking points" that you forgot to vomit up?

You did forget to mention Hallibuton. And don't forget to regurgetate your spoon-fed "facts" about the US Attorney Firings.

HELL, you also forgot to mention Katrina making those school busses sit in New Orleans empty.

Now on to your tripe about "the illegal invasion of a sovereign country".
I must assume your puppetmasters at the DNC made you forget about who the FIRST to lie about Iran was. Or maybe BOMBING A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY CLAIMING THEY HAD WMD's is ok since you coward Libtards don't have the balls to look someone in the face when you kill them.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

Or maybe CARPET BOMBING ANOTHER SOVEREIGN COUNTRY like Kosovo and blowing up the Chinese Embassy there is OK. But like the cowards you limp-wristed Libtards are, you couldn't face the THOUSANDS of people you killed.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/101300-107.htm

Where was your so-called "outrage" when Bubba Clinton was KILLING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMELANDS? Where was your so-called "outrage" when Bubba Clinton had Wesley Clark KILL 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS IN KOSOVO?

And why, after being so quiet when your boy Bubba Clinton was KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE in their OWN HOMELAND with NO PROVOCATION, why do you think we give a rats-ass what you think now?

It is so obvious that you are owned by the Democratic party. They know it, and we know it.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Wow you have some issues...you really need to get out of your parent's basement more often.

BTW How many Americans died during the Kosovo War? Zero...

What was the Republican plan at the time? Arm the Muslim Kosovian and Albanians and train them to fight. ie Just like Reagan did in Afghanistan back in the 80's... yup, no long term issues there...

LibsOutsmartYou--What do any of those things have to do with McCain's connections to the radical Bush regime?

Pink Slip

I can't wait to hear about the sex scandals that the Repub's will fabricate about Obama and his spouse. That will be the next pack of lies they'll come up with.. The Repubs have tried everything to tarnish Obama. By the way, what happened to Jeremiah Wright?

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