The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking. ~J.K. Galbraith

It's not easy to think for yourself sometimes. Often it's easier to listen to the people "in charge" tell you what they want you to believe without any critical questions being asked. No one wants to appear to be an ass after all. But without the critical questions and often negative appraisal we are left with people following like lambs to the slaughter.
For a number of years voters in Toledo have been happy to follow along it seems and so we end up with COSI, Erie Street Market, Commodore Perry, Portside, Hillcrest, Condos on the Middlegrounds etc. etc. And you are told "we have a vision", but what about your vision for Toledo? Jobs for your children and grandchildren, streets that are safe, roads that are driveable, services that are cost efficient?
It is time for a change in leadership and it won't come from public forums where politicians are allowed to spout platitudes without tough questions, and yes sometimes interruptions. As Galbraith says the conventional is safe, it's easy to listen to, but it doesn't make you think. Don't stop thinking Toledo.

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Diversity of ideas is a good thing and a necessary thing in any democratic society. Hearing ideas and concepts I don’t agree with broadens my mind, causes me to examine my premise and may even cause me to adjust my thinking. But that only happens if the information I am hearing is based on fact. Many talk show hosts forgo the facts to purposely become provocative. It drives up their ratings. And the more vicious they are in their rhetoric the more popular they become. It has nothing to do with whether I agree with their politics or not. You cannot promote untruths on the public air ways.


- Just the KAT, thinking out loud again.

If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

Many talk show hosts forgo the facts to purposely become provocative. It drives up their ratings. And the more vicious they are in their rhetoric the more popular they become. It has nothing to do with whether I agree with their politics or not. You cannot promote untruths on the public air ways.

Ive heard this arguement before, but when asked to provide specific untruths, Ive yet to see that happen.

Can you cite some of your untruths they've said?

but I'll gladly put my two cents in here.

It was a long time, ago, 1992 to be exact, when I realized that talk radio was changing drastically from the traditional 'conversational', easy-listening, informational style of broadcasting into something more strident, more bombastic, more of an attempt to 'push' a certain agenda or philosophy.

It started with Rush Limbaugh, who was already popular but hadn't yet quite achieved his current level of 'stardom.'

In the run-up to the '92 presidential election, Limbaugh kept hammering daily that the polls showing that 'liberal, pot-smoking, draft-dodging, in-league-with-Communists' candidate Bill Clinton leading George Bush couldn't possible be right, they were a manufactured element of the 'liberal' media, and Bush was certainly going to win re-election.

Well, of course, Clinton won, rather comfortably, and the day after the election I tuned in to Rush, not exactly sure what to expect, but thinking surely now he'll give the duly-elected guy his due and at least offer a 'wait and see' approach to whatever policies he enacts down the road.

Ah, no. The incredulous mouth-that-roared proclaimed it was the first day of "American Held Hostage" and other such venemous pronouncements, assuring his listeners the next four years (they turned out to be eight) were going to be the worst ever for our country (they turned out to be very good ones for most Americans), yada, yada.

It's only gotten worse, and. to be fair, the other side has gotten in the game with Air America and the like, trying to play catch-up, but nobody's as effective at polarizing, agenda-driven noise like right-wing talk radio. They started it, and have perfected the model.

but in 6 paragraphs, I still havent heard any lies that have been said on air.

Personally Im speaking locally. I dont listen to the national guys.

was saying is 'facts' and 'lies' get buried under an overall tone of rhetoric to the point where they are no genuine 'facts' being stated, but an agenda-based dialogue disguised as something based on 'facts.'

Much of talk radio is on the level of shrewd political advertising. There are 'facts' available to underscore whatever viewpoint you want to make. I believe many of us have been dumbed-down to the point we don't get the difference and if Rush, WSPD or Air America state something with enough authority enough people will buy it as a fact and not just another viewpoint.

If you want to say ultimately that's the listener's problem and not the messenger's, I'd have to agree.

I'll believe what I read in black and white - I saw You cannot promote untruths on the public air ways. and asked for some examples.

You've now spoken for KK twice. If I were KK, I'd be almost getting pissed, but then I dont care to have people putting words in my mouth for me.

Mr. LeSabre,
You come across as a dime-store Karl Marx. What are your plans for retirement, to lead a commune of believers in western Texas, worshiping at the shrine of the Apostle (Ron) Paul? And insist that the acolytes eat at Carrabba's? Tell your radio listeners in the morning, once again, about the orgasm you achieved by eating Carrabba's food.

Patience is a great virtue.

Mmmmmmm Carrabbas, now I need a cigarette

Any statement I make is the opinion of me exercising my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and is generally permitted.

Carrabbas sucks.

I got food poisoning last time I was there...haven't been back in a year.

Toledo has a ton of good Italian places. I prefer Pasta Fina or Zia’s.

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