Health Care Horror Stories (serious news alert)

By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: April 11, 2008

Not long ago, a young Ohio woman named Trina Bachtel, who was having health problems while pregnant, tried to get help at a local clinic.

Unfortunately, she had previously sought care at the same clinic while uninsured and had a large unpaid balance. The clinic wouldn’t see her again unless she paid $100 per visit — which she didn’t have.

Eventually, she sought care at a hospital 30 miles away. By then, however, it was too late. Both she and the baby died.

You may think that this was an extreme case, but stories like this are common in America.

Back in 2006, The Wall Street Journal told another such story: that of a young woman named Monique White, who failed to get regular care for lupus because she lacked insurance. Then, one night, “as skin lesions spread over her body and her stomach swelled, she couldn’t sleep.”......................

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1&bl&ex=1208...

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It is disgusting beyond belief that things like that happen every day in this country.
I know this post will bring out posters claiming how terrible any form of universal health care would be but I have a suspicion that they've never really had to fear getting medical help because of the cost.

If we can find billions for wars then we should be able to find money for medical care.

Senator Clinton was told this story and repeated it (Tina Bachtel) on the campaign trail quite a few times before finding out it was a falsification.

The woman had an OB and health insurance. The whole thing was fiction.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

The whole thing was fiction

Kate, that's not true. According to the link:

In fact, Mrs. Clinton was accurately repeating the story as it was told to her — and it turns out that while some of the details were slightly off, the essentials of her story were correct. After all the fuss, The Washington Post eventually conceded that “Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence” of Mrs. Clinton’s account

And according to ABC:

With that factual error noted in the New York Times, some in the media portrayed the story in such a way as to imply that none of it was true.

Some of it was accurate. The tragic death of Trina Bachtel and her son. The fears of a poor pregnant woman and her lack of immediate access to quality health care because she didn't have health insurance.

And my personal opinion, not that anyone asked, is that if I had been told this story and I had a forum, like a campaign, I would have told it also. It is a horrifying sounding tale as Sr. Clinton heard it..

I heard her address it last week on the news, she acknowledged the story was not true, while this womans'child died and she later died herself, it wasn't a health insurance issue. But she said she was told this by a trooper.......

According to the NYT coverage:

Ohio Hospital Contests a Story Clinton Tells

By DEBORAH SONTAG
Published: April 5, 2008

Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?scp=1&sq=hill...

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

I'll give you five stars for that one, Kate.

Hitlery picks up a rumor from a deputy, and since the story fits her rhetoric so well she decides to run the ball for a touchdown. Only one small problem, though... the story is not true. So we, the general public, get the standard disclaimer and brush off from Hitlery's camp followers.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that.”

Take note. 'If the hospital claims it did not happen that way...'. The hospital didn't claim anything. The hospital officials stated a fact that they are able to support with their billing system. Then we get the final bit of chutzpah, '...we respect that.' Not 'we stand corrected', oh no, not from the omnipotent Hitlery and company. They 'respect that'. Does anyone see a pattern building up here? Moreover, Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story

Get that? No one, not one person, bothered to vet the story, which they could have done easily. They chose to use this fabricated story, this out and out lie, to further their own ends. They did this deliberately, and they make no apology for it.

Just imagine what will happen if this lying woman is elected President.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

She'll blame this 'mis-speak' on post traumatic stress from being pinned down by sniper fire by a little girl with a poem..

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