Konop skips board event to hold one of his own

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"I cannot, in good conscience, pontificate on the State of the County to campaign contributors, recipients of no-bid contracts, and assorted politicians,” Mr. Konop said in a statement.

"So, I will forgo the State of the County and instead have an honest dialogue with working-class members of our community.”"

Personally, I dont trust any of em - Gerkin and TSW are owned and operated by various entities, and IMHO, Ben's just using this role as a grandstanding opportunity to get his name out there for future political grandeur. I hear he's being groomed for Marcy Kapturd's spot, but that's just rumor.

It is funny to watch tho.

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It's a little bit shocking to see a Democrat around here act like -- well, a Democrat.

As for the Terrible Twosome he left behind:

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Mr. Gerken also defended the Lucas County Improvement Corp., a frequent target of Mr. Konop.

“Has it had its problems? Yes. Will it ever be the perfect economic development organization? Probably not. But is it time to throw in the towel? Absolutely not,” Mr. Gerken said. “We have to put one foot in front of the other every day in this community.”
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Gerken doesn't even understand that change means things will become different. As long as he defends all the hallmarks of a failed government, then government failure will only continue. "Economic development" is a clear failure in Lucas County and especially Toledo, hence the government should give up on it immediately. Government energy should be reserved for enforcing the law and performing 100% tax collection.

He sounds like a democrat?? Aint like any Toledo/Lucas democrat Ive ever heard??

So long as he walks the walk, I dont care if he's a registered Nymphomaniac. One small request tho, could Konop clear this throat before he talks?? He sounds like Gollum from Lord of the Rings...

Young Ben will do anything to get his face on TV. I like that he quarrles with his fellow board members. Fiesty behavior however does not always net results. In his short time in office getting his top priority seems to be gaining name recogition. Skipping this event proved he is unable to serve us well. He should resign from office.

I would say the opposite. Hanging around with the old party whores doesn't cut it in my book, especially when they include old "Union" Pete and Wozniak, neither of whom have really an idea or have done a thing to turn this city around. Skipping the event showed that he is not going to conduct business as usual and rub elbows with the good old boys.
Good for Konop!

What ticked me off was Gerken's comment about how two was the only number to count to, which to me basically sounded like he was blowing off any idea or change Ben might try because he and Tina could just vote it down.

Angrysage, seems to me that ANY polititian will do just about anything to get his (or her) face on TV so you can't really hold that against him.

The fact that he was out meeting with and talking to the people living and working in Lucas county instead of preening in front of, not only the cameras but campaign contributors, and others they might be sitting in the pocket of really elevates him in my eyes.

Gerken's only been able to count to two for years. He only counted to two during the Thurber Era. So, we've run on a 2-person county government all this time. Why get that mad at it? It's the effective way it runs now.

If anything, we should be a little grateful that Gerk has revealed this truth in public.

In fact, if for example Ben gets another person to replace Gerk or Woz, that is aligned with his thinking, then HE can just count to two all the time, also.

This all makes the larger point that such layers of government are unnecessary and should be removed. All elements of county government should either fold, be distributed to townships (which each being 36 square miles, is more than enough of a region), or devolve to the state.

Which brings me to this question, does anybody know for a fact that Gerken and Wozniak are up for election this fall? I swear I read they were on the Lucas County website, yet, I've heard NOTHING about potential candidates. If they are running again, they better not run uncontested.

Wozniak's and Gerken's terms end in January 2009. They would be up for re-election in the November 2008 general election.

According to Wikipedia - County commissioners are elected to four-year terms in November of even-numbered years after being nominated in partisan primary elections. One commissioner is elected in the same year as the governor in one cycle; the other two commissioners are elected in the same year as the president of the United States. The commissioner who is elected with the governor begins his term on January 1. Of the other two seats, one term begins on January 2 and the second on January 3.

I checked the election results at the Lucas County Board of Elections web site and indeed both Wozniak and Gerken were elected in November 2004 (so a four year term would mean they are up for re-election in 2008) and Konop was elected in November 2006.

So somebody needs to step up soon.

From what I understand anyone wanting to run as an independent has to file their petitions with the County BOE by 4:00 p.m. on September 3, 2008.

None of our County officials with the exception of Tina Skeldon Wozniak and Jeanine Perry are facing an opponent.

This means the Prosecutor, County Clerk, All of the Common Pleas Judges up for re-election (Republican & Democrat alike), Lucas County Sheriff, County Treasurer, Engineer, Coroner, and of course Pete Gerken are facing no opponents.

http://www.co.lucas.oh.us/boe/Candidate_List.pdf

We don't remember days only moments...

I think we need to schedule a meeting so those of us who are not satisfied with this situation can discuss it. I like the Distillery, prior to the after dinner time though - it gets too loud to hold a discussion. A good loud though :-)

Maybe next Sat. for lunch or something? I owe a meal to somebody I stood up for breakfast yesterday.....

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

“We have to put one foot in front of the other every day in this community.”

Great idea, but instead of following each foot around in the same circle, maybe head in a new direction and not the same ol', same ol'.

Great comments. They may well just stay out of the news (the local paper would have to be complicit for this to happen) and run uncontested. It happens.....I hope it doesn't happen in this case - but with our paper it is hard to predict.

I have been watching Konop. I know about his familial connections - however I didn't want to write him off completely, sometimes kids kick the traces. I hope he does.

This decision is the kind of stuff I'd like to see more of. He may be just acting the part to get the press....but you have to think - he may not be acting the part. He might believe what he said and what he said impressed me. Quite a bit.

The quote I read was this: "I cannot, in good conscience, pontificate on the State of the County to campaign contributors, recipients of no-bid contracts, and assorted politicians,” Mr. Konop said in a statement.

"So, I will forgo the State of the County and instead have an honest dialogue with working-class members of our community.”"

And that is the truth. Whatever his motivation for speaking it remains to be proven - but I commend him for having the courage to speak the truth.

As to Gerken only being able to count to 2? Hey, that's not a new situation. When Maggie Thurber was a commissioner it was the same. This man, if you've ever heard him speak, is so condescending it just makes you angry to be around him.

Tina Wozniak apparently used to be interested in doing good things for the county but she's now a voiceless puppet to Gerken. And that's just sad that he's so confident he can tell her what to do that he's set himself against two different commissioners now.

In my opinion he has no respect for the county citizens. None at all.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

"Tina Wozniak apparently used to be interested in doing good things for the county but she's now a voiceless puppet to Gerken. And that's just sad that he's so confident he can tell her what to do that he's set himself against two different commissioners now.

In my opinion he has no respect for the county citizens. None at all."

Absolutely. That sums up exactly what is wrong with Lucas County politics.

He will NOT run uncontested. I'd put my name on the ballot before he runs uncontested just for the fact that no candidate should ever run uncontested; there should always be options.

who's registered as a candidate for what race? Maybe we can actually accomplish something here and avoid some local nogoodniks from running unopposed?

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

Its fun watching the crabs at play, isn't it?

The tactics of Ben Konop are, without a doubt, in your face to draw attention to the issues. Shouldn’t we be focusing on the message regardless of the tactics used to get our attention?

Ben said “I cannot, in good conscience, pontificate on the State of the County to campaign contributors, recipients of no bid contracts, and assorted politicians,”

This is the status quo folks. And they have done an admirable job of doing well for themselves. So, do we want more of the same? Do we think current leadership has the ideas, will, independence and energy to lead us to a better city, county or school system?

In my book Ben is right about his message. He got our attention with the tactic and maybe an opportunity to move the debate forward.

There are two people out there that are not afraid to move out of the herd and be candid – both in identifying the problems and suggesting solutions. Whether they are doing this to curry political favor or not, both have before and after they were elected to office talked about public service as a responsibility and bond with the community. They have talked about transparency and accountability. Both seem to use similar tactics. Both have taken on the entrenched self interests. And both seem to be winning converts (at least from what I see). Neither is perfect, but who is? Ben has one thing going for him that Darlene Fisher does not. Ben seems to have the Blade in his corner. I wonder why, when both carry the same message just from different vantage points.

I like what I’ve seen. I admire the courage it takes to part with the herd when it is obvious the herd is headed over the cliff. I call that foresight. A quality needed to see opportunities and avoid disasters. This is a quality we want in anyone we elect to office.

Now how do we clone Ben and Darlene?

It may be a little messier with folks like Ben and Darlene mixing it up. But democracies are most effective with a cacophony of voices. It leads to a transparency that creates an informed and engaged citizenry where ideas are intensely vetted. I’ll take that over quiet; get along to go along any day!

And it doesn’t matter whether I agree with them on every issue.

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Check out the moves on those low dogs!

Tina Wozniak is a LOT fatter than she appears in this video. And a lot less acrobatic! Pete is dancin' around things, as usual.

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