New New York Governor Had Multiple Affairs

It appears that in New York, you can lose your job if you cheat on your wife with a hooker. But, if you just cheat on her with multiple ordinary woman...then it's o.k. for you to replace the guy that used hookers. Americans have a funny way of judging morality. Link on story below:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338769,00.html

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Americans shouldn't "judge morality".

Maybe he didn't know he was cheating.

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"Show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and
five times out of nine I'll show you an exceptional man." -Charles
Bukowski

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

"perhaps Americans shouldn't judge morality."

Good luck to anyone trying to use that excuse to their spouse.

"The new Governor of New York is legally blind, maybe he didn't know he was cheating."

If it just wasn't for all those pesky details he gave about each and every affair.

As I understood it, this was something that happened quite a while ago and that his wife was also unfaithful. They worked it out and stayed together.
Wow.. just like regular people they have problem marriages.
Go figure.
The difference, as I see it is that the old NY Gov was doing his playing on the people's dime.

I agree.

I certainly don't condone infidelity. But if he and his wife had past issues that they have worked out between the two of them and his actions did not take place on the people's dime as OhioKat said, then I can see a disctinction between his actions vs. Spitzer's actions. (Not to mention that Spitzer's acts were illegal *and* there were the alleged money laundering issues being investigated.)

Like I said, doesn't mean that I think he was "right," but its certainly a different situation from Spitzer's.

But we must judge morality!!

;)

you also accept the expectations that go beyond the usual and customary code of your fellow citizens. Ministers should not preach about the sins of the flesh and then go out after their sermons and hire prostitutes, nor should a governmental official crusade against prostitution and then hire a prostitute. Just common sense which power and position sometimes causes those in authority to forget.

bill

This is one reason why I would never run for public office... too many skeletons in my closet. They want saints for God's sake!

to set up standards for behavior as a society. Even monkeys are able to do that and it is not judging morality.

It is not acceptable for someone who has made a name for themselves by prosecuting prostitutes and their clientèle while secretly being clientèle yourself.

We do hold public figures up to higher standards. We've had infidelity at a much higher level in our countries government and those men have not had to step down unless they violated the most serious social morals. Don't fool around with children,do that foot thing in public bathrooms and don't hold yourself out as some kind of a deeply committed family man while you're on the client list of some hooker.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

We do have the right to set up standards for behavior as a society

Only if it starts to violate the rights of others IMO.

then he will lie to us too

yup, if a guy will cheat on his wife and kids, then he will lie to us too

How in the world do you process that rationale?

How do you know every single candidate, or maybe 75%, or maybe 50 or 60%, who ran or is still running running for office, let's say the highest office, hasn't cheated on their spouse? How do you know who did and who didn't? Are we to assume that's if it's not public knowledge (yet) that they did not? Point is, we don't know.

How do we know John Edwards didn't cheat on his wife? Or Fred Thompson? Or John McCain? Or Barrack Obama? Mitt Romney? Or Hillary on her husband?

Eliot Spitzer was different. As a former NY Attorney General, a 'law and order' man, he didn't just cheat on his wife, he used an escort service, technically an illegality, to do the cheating. That's a different kettle of fish and he deserved everything he got.

I applaud the new NY governor for coming out with this on his own terms, beating to the punch the media and the political hatchet men who would love to make hay and headlines with new 'startling' revelations about the new NY governor and his 'sex' issues.

As for those who want only squeaky-clean (from a sex standpoint) candidates to serve in important political offices, you are both unrealistic and too holier-than-thou for your own good.

and homosapien were not designed for staying with one mate, originally.

From Wikipedia: Human sexual behaviour encompasses the search for a partner or partners, interactions between individuals, physical or emotional intimacy, and sexual contact. Some cultures will find only sexual contact within marriage acceptable; however, extramarital sexual activity still takes place.

Mainstream society in the American culture over the years have emphasised, through religious reinforcement, that participating in sexual affairs outside a relationship is considered "adultry".

Yes, he 'came forward' about his past infidelities - but what I find interesting, is that he did it AFTER he was sworn in . Tricky timing I'd say.

(coming FROM a woman who's husband cheated on her - if you are more qualified to comment than I, then argue the point with me) that a man who will lie and cheat to his spouse and children will lie to other people also.

I think to say otherwise is asinine. If you'll treat the people who are your very own family so badly - to say that person will be better to people they don't even know doesn't make any sense to me. But then again, I've lived through this situation and I've known someone who was so morally bankrupt that they did this to not only our family, but two others.

Some people just don't have a moral compass.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.

Who do we know among any important elected leaders, national, state-wise, regional, or otherwise, past or present, who have cheated on their spouse or who have not?

You're making moral judgements, on one way or another, on people we don't even have any real knowledge about, at least as it pertains to their lives within their marriages.

For example, there have been 43 United States Presidents. Who among those cheated on the spouse? If they cheated on their spouse does that make them a lousy President?

there are men who really do take seriously their committment to their wives. Who consider adultery as a mark AGAINST the character of a man. Do I think a man who can be trusted by his wife has more character....yes. Do they always make good leaders? Not necessarily....but they do make better decisions. (There are good decision makers who don't have leadership skills).

who take their marriage vows seriously, I'm one of them. But I thought the issue here was as it pertained to elected officials.

Let's take, just for example, John F. Kennedy. It's common knowledge he had many affairs. He was also President during the Cuban Missle Crisis, when the U.S. and Soviet Union came very close, according to many first-hand participants and historians, to blowing each other to smithereens.

Kennedy's handling of the situation, with the help of others of course, help avert a situation where potentially millions of people could have been reduced to dust.

So, I ask you, which aspect of John F. Kennedy carries more weight? The fact that he was a reknown womanizer, or the fact that he guided this nation though arguably the most dangerous crisis in it's history?

It's crystal clear to me, which is why I prefer to let others sit in holier-than-thou moral judgements of our elected leaders, whether they be county dog warden or U.S. President.

Well said....but can we put aside this level-headedness about morality until after the election? After all:

"[John] McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money."

So yes, by all means, let's vote based on morality.

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