Can This Be Fact?...Rule by fear or the law?

An article in the SF Chronicle...

The events of the last decade have changed our American way of life. But have things gone too far?

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.
-James Madison, Federalist No. 10, November 23, 1787

I do find it humorous that so many people here are outraged about their civil rights being violated when talking about the smoking ban and prying a gun from their cold, dead hands but don't seem to care about the fact that King George and his lackeys can imprison anyone indefinitely and torture them at will just because he thinks you might be a terrorist.

Many of us DO care that the government has violated the constitution by illegal spying, passing laws that allow illegal detention without constitutional guarantees, and other anti-constitutional measures. And we also care about the erosion of personal liberties and private property in the areas of smoking bans and gun controls. There is nothing humorous about losing one's rights in any area. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't seem concerned or there would be a firestorm of protest. Too bad Ron Paul is ignored by the opinion makers.

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RIGHT ON, PETE!!!
GREAT post!!

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"Oh, Bother!" Said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

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I might add-the REVERSE is ALSO true-many, if not most, of those who are against the patriot act and want to inpeach Bush are the same ones who have no problems with smoker bans, gun control, or the Kelo decision.

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"Oh, Bother!" Said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Hell, I have trouble getting people to even BELIEVE that the government held Jose Padilla for years without benefit of legal counsel or trial. It's an uphill battle to even get people to understand that the Presidency was turned into an Emperor position that they railroaded Nixon out for wanting.

All it took was a stupid little war that fit their anti-Arab and anti-Islam biases perfectly. We've been proving to the world on a daily basis that a scared American is a dangerous American.

Its one thing to hold "enemy combatants" at a military base, but to have secret detention centers on US soil? This is The United Stated of America, right?

Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.
-James Madison, Federalist No. 10, November 23, 1787

Unfortunately, Oh5er, the more you look into this, the more alarmed you will become.

While our rights haven't finished eroding entirely, the flood water threatens the ground floor and the yard is a duck pond. It isn't that no one cares. It isn't that no one is alarmed. The problem lies in the leadership of the US, and the leadership of the State. The leaders have ceased to protect the rights of the people.

First, consider the sweeping powers that King George the Younger granted himself. Consider that both the House and the Senate failed to act immediately to remove those rights. Now consider that the USSC has also failed to remove those rights from King George. Draw your own conclusions, and if you don't feel that you're being deliberately oppressed then stop reading. Just continue along with your life as it is. You won't feel a thing.

For the rest of us, there's the little incident in Lima, Ohio that's slowly being swept under the carpet and forgotten. There's another incident at Lima involving a particularly brutal strip search by fat, white cops who are clearly enjoying themselves. Then there are these headlines:

North American Army created without OK by Congress
U.S., Canada military ink deal to fight domestic emergencies

Here's the link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57228

I find these stories hard to believe, but I suppose they may be true. I also read today that three cops who shot a man on the day of his wedding in NYC are finally going to trial. Fifty shots were fired by the three police. The victim was unarmed.

I'm over fifty. I believe that at some point during my life Federal martial law will be declared on one pretext or another, or perhaps none at all. Firearms and other contraband will be collected in a massive house to house search, and that will be the start of a brand new way of life for people in the US of A.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

Certainly the people resigned as a group. That sort of thing doesn't happen unless conditions are so bad as to be incredible. Now criminal charges are being filed? Maybe, maybe not. That part could be anything from implied threats that are being hastily retracted all the way to being railroaded into jail. One thing's certain: Something isn't right at that place.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

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