Man commits suicide after taking smoking cessation drug (drugs is drugs)

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Man 'killed by anti smoking drug'
By Lucy Thornton 21/01/2008

A grieving wife claims her husband killed himself after taking a new
anti-smoking drug.

Dad-of-two Wayne Marshall, 36, was found hanging shortly after
finishing a 13-week course of Champix.

Wife Emma, 28, said: "He went downhill so quickly. He stopped going
out. He closed himself off completely from everybody."

The Doncaster welder's suicide in November is the second linked to
the drug. TV editor Omer Jama, 39, slashed his wrists at his home in
Bolton last October. A further 62 suicidal-type reactions have been
reported to the medicines regulator.

Champix got NHS approval last July and has been prescribed to 20,000
people. Maker Pfizer was unavailable for comment yesterday.

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You tagged this as laughing out loud.
I'm curious as to what part of this man dying you thought was funny?

but they don't supply you with a selection for that. The anti-smoking hysteria/lobby/big pharma killed him with a different drug-which the same people who wish to outlaw tobacco told him was totally harmless.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Chantrix can be very dangerous. My sister works at American Airlines in Texas & said that they hauled out several employees on stretchers, couldn't breath, from Chantrix. One very common side effect is tongue & throat swelling, speech slurring (you sound drunk - tell it to the cop when he pulls you over). Severe suicidal thoughts are also a fairly common side effect which doesn't get mentioned often. Bizarre dreams also are, but I don't think the dreams would bother me so much. People have had severe reactions to the NIctotine patch & gum (which minors can buy) - strokes, etc. I have high hopes for this new shot they're talking about, but until I see long term studies on it, I'll wait. I've read it usually takes 5 shots in all - and it's a drug that works on the brain receptors. Anything that tampers with my brain, scares hell out of me. But darkseid is correct - Big Pharma caused this man's death, which IS ironic & sad. Smoking isnt good for you, but geez, he easily could have lived a decent life for another decade or two or three.

Am I part of a minority that had a positive experience from Chantix? I am on my 9th wek of Chantix. It has had only minimal side effects. I have no thoughts of suicide, My tongue and throat are just fine, and I have not experienced any increase on the intensity of my dreams...(damn, I was kinda hoping for that one. I considered them "night-time adventures". LOL). I felt the same levels of depression (and the aggression can probably be attributed as well) as I experience when I quit smoking cold turkey. If you look down the list of side effects people are reporting, ask anyone who's quit nicotine cold turkey about how they felt and you'll get pretty much the same list, more or less.

I have not had a smoke in over 9 weeks and for those who care my quitting had nothing to do with the smoking ban. I still oppose the ban and feel it's an incroachment on our liberties.

But I degress. I would say to anyone desiring to quit smoking to at least explore using Chantix. Check with you Dr. first. It has defidently worked for me where others like Nicorette and Wellbutrin have failed .

What amazes me is the claims that this causes suicide. There are 30,000+ suicides a year in the US. To blame a fraction of them on Chantix without more research and you may as well say driving a Ford or reading anonymous message boards was the cause and probably just as accurate.

some of my comments may be credited to postings at http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?t=241916

If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

on quitting and I hope you stay with it. That's the most important thing and all the rest is smoke, mirrors and noise.

Congratulations, Kat. I know that nic is extremely difficult to kick, and I applaud your efforts.

"...my quitting had nothing to do with the smoking ban".

One of the corollary benefits to the smoking ban is an increased knowledge and awareness of the health hazards associated with that behavior.

Whatever your true reasons for quitting, I am glad you did. If you did not do it for yourself, do it for the people that care about you. .

What amazes me is that nicotine is so addictive that a drug like this exists to help people get off of it. Kind of reminds me of a heroin addict taking methadone.

Nicotine by itself is addictive. The tobacco companies "spike" cigs with ammonia and a hundred other chemicals to make them even more addictive these days.

I've seen several patients on Chantix that didn't report any side effects. One suicide story out of the UK doesn't mean there is a link between the drug and suicide. Talk about anecdotal evidence...... Meanwhile, Chantix enjoys a success rate unparalleled by other medications, strategies, or support groups.

mccaskey - not smoke & mirrors at all. The side effects of Chantrix are made known (in small print). Many people do not suffer side effects - but many do. I'm crossing my fingers over the new shot - but it's supposed to take 5 shots to work, and there haven't been long term studies to see any residual effects (not on Chantrix either) & it makes me nervous to have a drug injected into me that tampers with my brain receptors. At one time, they thought that shock therapy & lobotomies were a great idea too.

Good luck!!!! I didn't really think I was ever going to be able to quit - but the new stuff worked for me. (I hope I never turn into one of those preachy ex-smokers though. That is my biggest fear now:-)

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

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You mean like FatBabe? LOL
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"Oh, Bother!" Said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

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Congratulations on quitting and I hope you stay with it. That's the most important thing and all the rest is smoke, mirrors and noise.
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Yep. This man's death was ok-at least he won't be smoking tobacco now, Mcass. Great progressive thinking.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

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. One suicide story out of the UK doesn't mean there is a link between the drug and suicide. Talk about anecdotal evidence......

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Hmmmm....could have sworn I saw something there about 64 or 65 cases , rather than one 'isolated incident', but then rabid smoker-haters will see only what they want to see. But it's ok, he;s dead and can't smoke around you now.

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BRING THE TROOPS HOME-NOW!

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"They keep talking about drafting a constitution for Iraq.Why don't we give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, and we're not using it any more".

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

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Don't like something?? Don't agree?? Don't agree to disagree, don't put up with it, get it legislated,regulated, taxed and banned, today!!

Do your part, comrade, to crush private property rights, to destroy the free market, to remove any desire of your fellow proletariats to educate themselves!!!!

Down with the bourgeoius!!! Join us in our glorious revolution, NOW!!!

Perhaps the founding fathers had it right when they were still mulling things around, only property owners should be allowed to vote.

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BRING THE TROOPS HOME-NOW!

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

If Chantix is dangerous, pull it from the shelves right now. The only ones who will object are the Big Pharma lobbyists. I don't want to see anybody harmed for trying to quit smoking.

Darkseid, you're missing the point. Even if it were 65 people that killed themselves while on Chantix doesn't mean that Chantix caused the suicide. This is statistics 101.

First off, is the rate of suicide increased for people on Chantix? Just telling me that 65 people killed themselves doesn't tell me that is any higher than the rate of suicide for the population as a whole. If the rate of suicide among people on Chantix equals that of the population as a whole then there is no story whatsoever. That's equivalent to concluding that people in black cars are more likely to die in car crashes simply because 15 people in Northwest Ohio were killed while driving black cars last year.

Secondly, if suicide risk is increased while people are on Chantix it still doesn't prove that Chantix is causing the suicide rate to increase. They may be correlated, but correlation does NOT equal causation. Perhaps people trying to stop smoking have a higher incidence of suicide than people not stopping. Because everyone on Chantix is trying to stop smoking, a confounding variable is established that requires further study.

I just pulled a study up about 251 people on Chantix. There are side effects mentioned (vivid dreams, insomnia, and nausea), but there was not a single suicide among that 251 people. True, 251 people is a very small study, but the way you're telling the story we would expect half of the people to have hung themselves.

I've pulled up several articles on chantrix & only found one that mentioned all the side effects - most just skim through the more common ones. But yes, suicidal thoughts & depression are among some of them. Far too many American Airlines employees in Texas have been hauled out on stretchers because they couldn't breath because they were on Chantrix to believe it is not a common side effect. (my sister witnessed it). Same with speech slurring, tongue & throat swelling.

it worked very well for me. I was very tired while I was taking it and quit when I heard that there were some of these issues, but that was last month. I quit in November.

I hope there isn't a problem with this drug. It's great to have finally been able to quit.

congrats!!!!

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

The only way to quit anything these days is by quitting cold turkey. I know this is hard. Of course there are support groups and programs available such as Narconon Vista Bay to help people get through the cravings. Turning to a company that is trying to turn a profit is a terrible idea. They aren't worried about whether or not the person quits, they just want the income.

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