Would you elect an unknown, non-politician to the Office Of Mayor?

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yes
73% (53 votes)
no
27% (20 votes)
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compared to carty, you bet!

A former business leader for instance?

The guy who led Owens Corning out of bankruptcy just retired. That guy in particular? I dont know - a person with that kind of experience? sure.

The way I see the "Mayor of Toledo" going forward is that he/she must have a crucial trait...
Common sense.

This includes the realization that 1 man/woman cannot be the end all, be all of the future. In the current administration, this is an unknown fact.

Going forward, the next mayor must be able to accept the fact that there must be a multi-layered approach to rebuilding Toledo. No 1 person has the solution. In fact, the next mayor will have to accept that his/hers is not the only vision, the only way and that he/she may have to make a decision to do something that they may not like a lot. This is the crux of the reality that change is often painful and comes at a price.

I see the next mayor as a person that knows their own limits, talents and abilities. This person will surround themselves with skilled people that can deal with the details of the vision and present to the mayor a choice or set of choices that will require common sense and a keen understanding of potential pitfalls so that the common sense decision can be made.

The next mayor will need to reach beyond his own understanding to the citizens and pros in the community for advanced guidence. he/she must be willing to cross all party lines, all walks of life and seek the wisdom and good judgement that comes from a combined effort to reach a common goal.

Being a cheerleader is all well and good, they mayor must be able to sell the plans and ideas to not just Council, but the community too. They must be an avid listener and able to decern the value of other's opinions while making decisions that will benifit the whole.

if those are your caveats, then what you're saying is we have the exact wrong person in place right now.

I second that motion.

Billy... wrong man, wrong time.... and he's gonna run again

but maybe he'll have a tougher time.

Anyone care to list what he's accomplished since he got in office??

Southwyck?
Steam Plant?
ESM?
MLK Bridge?

How many years ago did we vote to go ahead with the marina district?? Im thinking EIGHT??

He'll pat himself on the back over bike paths, just like Ja-Fo patted himself on the back over tree trimming...

We need a law that says once you've served three (or four if he gets elected again) as mayor that you're done. You don't even get to run again :Þ

I don't believe a word from the city as a whole saying they would vote for an unknown. No you wouldn't....history has proven that.

A known psychopath vs. ANYONE?

The answer is obvious.

Don't blame me,
I didn't vote for a
socialist.

Everybody says they would, but in practice, I wonder............ The reason for my skeptism, is that in the last election for Lucas County Sheriff, Oregon Police Chief Tom Gulch ran against Sheriff Telb (who's held the position, almost uncontested forever). Chief Gulch wanted to trim the fat, & make a lot of improvements & improve safety at the jail, and was highly qualified for the position (he knew the jail, the office, & is one of the few who understands how the radio system works). Chief Gulch had retired from the Toledo Police Dept. as a Captain, and had training with the FBI, he was appointed to head of Homeland Security for Lucas County, had attended many terrorism training conferences (one in Turkey) - he was perfect for the job, and highly qualitifed. He'd worked with Telb in the past - but he was not a politician, and he ran a clean race, no mud slinging, little money to work with, but knocked on a zillion doors & went to nearly every festival & event to promote his run for sheriff. The reality was, that the Unions always endorse the Democrats - no matter what. And Toledo is a Democrat, Union town. Most people still voted for Telb - again - just as they have for the last several elections. People bitch & complain a lot - but often keep voting the same person in.

"he was perfect for the job, and highly qualitifed..... he ran a clean race, no mud slinging, little money to work with, but knocked on a zillion doors & went to nearly every festival & event to promote his run for sheriff. The reality was, that the Unions always endorse the Democrats - no matter what. And Toledo is a Democrat, Union town. Most people still voted for Telb - again - just as they have for the last several elections. People bitch & complain a lot - but often keep voting the same person in."

the same can be said for chris on his campaign for school board. toledoans vote for who they know, not who's the best person for the job. darn you kate for rubbing off on me. :) sad but true, otherwise ford would not have been elected.

and just like the horse pills they give ya for serious illnesses, it can be tough to swallow. I agree startling that when given a choice in the past, the voters have failed to rise to the challenge. Even during the recall, many people let fear of the machine stop them from doing the right thing. And just as predicted, things have gotten measurably worse.

Lets all keep in mind the time frame were talking about here, 6 months.

Chad...I'd like to think I would, but then you also get caught up in this weird thing of "electability" right? I had a a handful of friends who in 2000 voted for Nader to "make a point." My point to them was that they were helping to hand the election over to Bush, as it was apparent Nader would not win the election. Seemed a high price to pay to me.

Perhaps one way to think about the problem is how do you make your relatively unknown candidate more well-known? That by being unknown, perhaps they are not the best candidates for the position of a public office.

Or perhaps we think about changing our voting procedures. 1 vote as opposed to ranking or scaling really works in favor of status-quo or established candidates. What would the election scene look like if we could rank our candidates, so people who are popular with both parties may rise to the top ~ would that allow people to rank in "unknowns", as it's not as if you're throwing your whole vote away?

Thanks for the great brain juice this morning!

On the brain juice:-)

Of course Carty will run again. If his opponent is Mike Ferner, what's a voter to do?
Having a mayor and a few council members with some actual entrepreneurial experience would go along way toward making Toledo TRULY business friendly and solving the problems of declining jobs, population and tax base.

A "Draft Billy" campaign has a nice ring to it.

Quite a few people are fed up with Finkbeiner's bullshit and incompetence. Good God, man, the guy 's got screws loose. Think other people haven't noticed the upcoming opportunity? Hell, if Finkbeiner could be mayor of this town, anyone could.

Realistic names to trip the trigger of thought - Ben Konop and Mark Sobczak.
How about Michael Collins ?

I'd even vote for Keith Wilkowski over Fink.
Enough is enough.

Would be good for the city, yes.
Careful use of plans, careful use of words and a platform upon which to run would be in order.
What coalitions would a new person with no political experience, or job experience, could bring to the table.
To the north of us there is a young person in office as Mayor, but the differences between here and there are great.
"Perhaps one way to think about the problem is how do you make your relatively unknown candidate more well-known? That by being unknown, perhaps they are not the best candidates for the position of a public office."
Spot on.
Presenting ones self to the public is needed.

I say that Chris Meyers should run for mayor.

They have to be willing to take Carty on
They have to have all the above mentioned qualities
They have to be able to blend divided fractions of the Gov.
They have to be fearless
They have to be dumb enough to take on this mess and stand in the face of countless hours of ridicule which will surely come as change is often painful.

So where exactly are we gonna find a sucker like that?...lol

I'd look at Collins