So long for so little

Many of you will be thrilled here... I'm giving up on Toledo. Yup, had it, sick of it, tired of it, no longer find any value in it. I'm putting the Manor up for sale(Not that it will sell) and packing my crap and leaving before this town sucks what life I have left out of me.

Not only does the economy suck, (no good jobs), but the people are apathetic, the Government is corrupt and the "King" mayor is an idiot. There is so mcuh wrong here that it's simply just not worth it anymore.

Toledoans don't want positive change, they just wanna bitch and blame. It seems all are happy with the leadership and lifestyle that takes place in the armpit of Ohio. So, go ahead and keep thy heads in the sand, maybe when it's a ghost towne some big city slicker wil come to the rescue with a bag o' billions and a dream. then again, they will likely wake up long before I did..lol.

May God bless you all, Lord knows you need all the help you can get.

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Where ever life leads and takes you.

Often thought about pulling up stakes and skedaddling myself, but I hate moving and better times are a coming...wait for it....wait for it...

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Chad, I am surprised. I would hate to see you go. This seems abrupt. Could you tell us the longer version of what happened. When did it start? What precipitated it?

I also think you have a lot of supporters here :) I admired what you did.

I'm ready to go also, Chad. I have left several times before , but for some reason I keep coming back. I'll probably leave again and may not return. You better believe the "Clowns" in Toledo won't miss us. They don't care if they have dominion over a puddle, as long as they have dominion over something. It appears that the people who have the worse cases of lack of self esteem and talent end-up in power. Maybe, it's because those of us who are talented and feel pretty good about ourselves are honest, truthful people. It takes a lot of work to defeat evil. The world has survived because evil has been defeated time and time again. The problem is, evil keeps coming back. I am going to stick it out a little longer. I'm going to stay around long enough to see what I can do to unseat the evil ones. If I don't succeed, at least I tried.

There isn't any future for Toledo, IMO. The voters continue to put the same cast of villians, their relatives or cohorts into office.

The definition of insanity is to perform the same action over and over expecting a different outcome.

Toledo is behind most of the country in employment, real estate values and quality of education. We are however ahead of the most of the country in fuel costs and taxes.

There is no reason to make long term plans to stay. The people I've found that are keepers I will keep. After my obligations are met here I have no intention of staying.

I travel a bit so I've seen, particularly over this last summer, places where the economy is thriving, they put their kids over union or newspaper opinions and life is happy.

Actually I'm excited now that I've made the decision. Can't wait to go to a place without this kind of continuous strife.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

Go back to school and find another job. I'm a computer programmer and I've got plenty of work around Toledo. I just moved off Douglas Rd. from Sylvania with my wife and son and we love our home and our neighborhood. Sorry about your luck but only you have control over your situation, don't expect a municipality to do it for you. Economy doesn't suck, it just sucks for you. Work around it, create your own opportunities. The city is only as good as you make it. Be apart of it, help it grow. Bitching and whining on SwampBubbles isn't going to help your situation or the city's. Have you ever tried scheduling an appointment with your representative to sit and talk and give suggestions? Or perhaps an appointment with the mayor?

So, the reports and stats we read about the area being in an economic downturn are incorrect?

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Reports and stats don't feed my table, my initiative and ambition to find work does. The slow economy is a nationwide problem, its' not unique to Toledo. So that still leaves Chad a big problem when he moves to another city.

... you DO understand what "statistics" are, right? Statistics describe what is happening to people AFTER they have exerted themselves and have tried to prosper.

The truth is that capital has significantly fled Toledo, and that which remains is fairly abusive towards the workforce. I've never been so poorly treated than when I worked in Toledo ... and I've been in the military, so that should tell you something!

True, self sufficiency and fortitude cannot be tossed away when you're faced with a bad economic climate. Neither can we ignore what the Capitalist Scum (and their lackeys, the bankers and politicians) are doing to us.

Well, I understand that they are a way to see where we are, where we have been and where we go in the future or in your view a way to demonize people in situations that are not of their own making.

Capital moves around quite fluidly except that the river is not flowing in as much as needed.

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Yet, the statistic's are being played on on World New's Tonight as a nationwide problem that isn't unique to Toledo. I still fail to see how moving helps that issue. Forgive me if I do sound arrogant, I'm not trying to be, but I come read the articles on SwampBubbles to see if there really is anything people are doing to help better the area. Highlight the positives. And there isn't. This community site has become so whiny. When's the last time anything positive has been submitted? A city municipality isn't mean to do everything for you, baby you, and lead you through life. You should be doing that on your own. As you said, self sufficiency. I'm certainly not denying the fact that Toledo has its' issues, or TPS, but way to much blame is placed on them for problems that shouldn't be placed on them. There's issue's everywhere you go.

Toledo's combination of past prosperity, current unemployment, capital flight and political corruption make it a fine candidate for #1 Loser City of the USA. THAT is what the stats tell us.

And you know what? It doesn't have to be that way. We should bother to enforce the law. That would be a BIG help ... but the individual citizen is not a policeman. The POLICE are the policemen. They are allegedly paid to patrol, accept emergency calls, and deal with social issues of law enforcement. But 2/3rds of them are not doing that ... instead, they are driving desks in bullshit jobs. It's another fine example of people getting paid without delivering service.

That's part of Toledo's nearly intractable cultural problem. Once people get used to a big paycheck, a lack of accountability, and a system that promotes stupidity, they then spend, goof off, and act inanely. Once the bottom falls out of such a society, disaster results. All the complaints you hear are part of the effort we're making to stave off the disaster.

So, it doesn't have to collapse. When incomes drop so precipitously, the costs of homes, services and taxes should drop accordingly. Do you see any of that going on? Yes, only recently for homes, but the increases for taxes and services are going to try to make up for it, leaving Toledoans staring at a future of a very real wage slavery.

In short, there's no need to highlight the positives when the negatives are so glaring (and at the same time, so easy to fix). You may as well ask why a woman is complaining while she's getting her face beat in. Effectively: "You have a roof over your head and food on your plate ... spit out that tooth and look at the positives!" Making such a statement itself is rather inane and is fully part of Toledo's cultural problem ... said problem being DENIAL.

There is no DENIAL. I understand there are issues with the local government. Yet, I'm not going to sit around with my hands underneath my ass whining and complaining about how inept they are. Do something to contribute to the community to make it stronger. PRIVATE individuals and businesses can STILL do that without government. I STILL don't see how Toledo can have SUCH a terrible community when outside communities, 10-15 minutes away, are doing quite fine making a living working a job IN Toledo AND paying HIGHER taxes. Taxes in Toledo are like half of what they are in Sylvania and Perrysburg, yet, they seem to be attractive places for people to live and raise a family.

You are under some sort of misapprehension about where the capital went. The jobs LEFT the city; it's not like the WORKERS left the city, and just commute inward. Why do you seem to continue to ignore this point?

Capital flight has literally gutted the society of Toledo, leaving an urban core that decays more each year from neglect at all levels (from the personal level, with people letting homes, yards and families decay, to the government level, with politicians wasting our tax money).

And let's not avoid That Which Can't Be Said. Fuck, Ford said it; he at least had the balls to say people were moving to the exoburbs since "it's Whiter". People in general don't want to live next to the lesser classes in society. Unfortunately, in the public perception that means Blacks, and people like me who are White but have rusty vehicles, run-down property and a generally slovenly appearance. Nobody wants to live next to us, believing us to be "unclean" or something, so they shoulder huge debts, big commutes, and even higher personal taxes. They do all that just to get away from us.

SO THAT IS DENIAL. The "White Flight" is still happening at a good clip, and it's only putting Toledo on the Detroit Plan.

As for making my community stronger, it's taking all my efforts just to make sure the increase in crime is not visiting my neighborhood. But that just nudges the career criminals into targeting some other area of the city.

If you can find a way to actually get 2/3rds of the police out from behind their desks and out onto the street to actually enforce basic laws, then you're a better man than I am. The truth is that the police union has happier members when they drive a desk and make it to retirement in a M-F, 9-5 job ... instead of chasing some Robert-Jobe-esque fuckwit at 2am. So, what can be done to break either that union, or the union's tendency to keep 2/3rds of the police behind desks?

ToledoPlusPlus, you are living in a dream world if you think the economy in Toledo is good just because you have a job. Its only a matter of time before they get your butt, too. There are many people in Toledo who have a great education, but they can't find a job because they are the wrong gender, race, ethnic origin, too fat, too skinny, too pretty, too ugly , too old, too young.etc. In other words, whatever excuse an employer wants to come up with not to hire you.. Not too long ago I interviewed with a company in Toledo who said that my credentials were impeccable and that II would be great asset to their organization. Then they went on to say, "But, you have already had your career." Of course they were referring to the fact that I'm over 50 years old. Toledoens treat each other like dog dookey.

So, you say go back to school. Tell that to the hundreds of people who have Masters Degrees and PHD's that can't find a job because of those mediocre, backstabbing idiots who rule because they out number everybody else. Do your homework before you assume you are so much smarter than everybody else.

They are not really good at listening or communicating. Many people in a lot of on-line venues have said the same thing. Leave a phone message and it is a crap shoot if they will call back.

"The city is only as good as you make it. Be apart of it, help it grow."

Well, ya, the bitching and whining are part and parcel of getting someone to respond and take notice.

I drove home today from Rossford and traveled through the east side and up Lagrange Street.

It is like night and day from Douglas Rd.

What is the administration doing in concrete ways to help improve the situation, besides flower planters, bike paths and so on.

I have been taking snaps of the city and they are not showing loads of people going from here to there.

Take a drive through the north end or other older areas and then wonder why people are complaining.

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Take a drive through the north end or other older areas and then wonder why people are complaining.

As I'm certain people complain about equally abhorrent conditions in certain sections of other Rust Belt cities like Akron, Dayton, Cleveland, Fort Wayne, Youngstown, Gary, Flint, Saginaw, and the like. Even pockets of "better-off" Rust Belt places like Columbus, Indianapolis and Grand Rapids (Mich.) have their downtrodden neighborhoods.

So, do you want to move away fron NW Ohio, i.e. the 'Rust Belt' or just the city limits of Toledo? As has been pointed out, communities like Sylvania, Ottawa Hills and Perrysburg are nice places to live, but yes, you have to pay more in taxes and housing in return for your better services and better schools. Throw in towns like Waterville, Grand Rapids, Bowling Green, and you will again have quality living conditions.

Sure, already-overcrowded, or getting the the point of being over-crowded, sections of the country like the Carolinas, Florida, the Southwest, California and New England may offer, at first glance, better opportunities, weather, etc. but I'm familiar with many people that have been there and returned to this area. For others, it's worked out well and they're glad they moved. Point being, there's no quarantee of happiness anywhere and every situation is largely what you make if it.

They're running out of water in Atlanta, but wow the weather sure is nice.

For most of my life before moving here.

And if I could afford to I would move back now after almost 13 years here.

I lived in the country and near mountains in New England.

"Point being, there's no quarantee of happiness anywhere and every situation is largely what you make if it."

In some ways, but when there is effective leadership it shows.
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What...on a major scale...can the City of Toledo do to change your mind about them. Don't give stupid instances like WSPD being locked out of a press conference, therefore, the city has become a shit hole, and if they were to let them in, the city is in its' heyday. What...on a major scale...can they do?

Import more educated people....

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Its' not hard to sense the sarcasm. I'm trying to ask sincerely. Tell me, what can they do on a major scale?

The conversation has been had many times.

Read through Swampbubbles

What is the administration doing now?

Erie Street Market? Southwyck?

The administration has not presented us with much except promises and hopes.

Yes, there is a marina coming, how does that help the north end?

Steam Plant stagnating. Dorr Street condos stalled and many more.

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A Marina District helps give reason for people to come to that side of the river. Same as the Docks. I know a lot of people from the suburbs who go to the Dock's, it gives reason to go there, spend their money and contribute to the economy of Toledo. Not to mention, the Marina District brings in new housing, more feet on the ground. Erie Street Market is agreed upon, it needs to be out of city's hands. Give Kathy Steingraber of the Warehouse District Association the ability to market it. Southwyck was well known to have issues because of Dillards. Not much the city or any potential private developer could do there. Dillard's is gone. Progress can move forward. I expect construction to start early to mid next year.

What about the Mud Hens stadium? The Arena? The new Marina docks? What about Marcy Kaptur trying to bring a Regional Red Cross Distribution Center? New TPS schools? What about the continued growth of UT with the merger, which has spawned the company Xunlight for producing and manufacturing photovoltaic modules, and has helped put Northwest Ohio in a position to become a leading producer of clean tech and green energy.

There's positives for this area. It will turn around.

And if I could afford to I would move back now after almost 13 years here.

Ah yes, another dynamic when considering where to live....affordability

New England (or many other perceived more desirable areas to live)=exceedingly expensive. NW Ohio=not so much.

I'm not picking on you Neighborhood and understand your frustration. If you lived in the mountains of New England, the Vermont/New Hampshire area, I can certainly understand why you'd want to return. But, the economy really isn't that much better in that particular region, outside of the major towns, is it?

"I'm not picking on you Neighborhood and understand your frustration."

I do not view the comments as picking it is all just discussion.

"But, the economy really isn't that much better in that particular region, outside of the major towns, is it?"

Well it depends. The last town I lived in was small, 1,000 people and was about 45 minutes from any good sized city. So work was there and there was work. Cost of living was okay, but with gas prices now at what they were, oy....

The folks in the country side commuted to the cities.

"New England (or many other perceived more desirable areas to live)=exceedingly expensive. "

What's New England, Boston?

There is a whole lot more to the area that the coast and mountains.

I grew up in Danbury, Conn.

Then the cost was okay, now, way up as more and more from NYC move there.

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I'm not denying the fact that the North End has turned into a shit hole. My wife grew up in what used to be a quiet, culturally rich Polish neighborhood and has now turned into a ghetto gangbanger's playground where Keith Dressel was slained. But I still believe its' up to the members of that community to rise up from it and prop their own community up. What do you want the city to do other than plant flowers and bike paths? Those things add to the quality of life of a neighborhood. Sure, they can repave the streets. What else? Its' up to citizen's to clean up their homes. Maintain their lawns. Clean up trash and return it to a respectable community. What does Sylvania do that keeps their community clean and quiet that Toledo doesn't do? The taxes are higher. Most Sylvanians work in Toledo, so you can't say Sylvania has plenty of jobs. Maumee? Perrysburg? Ottawa Hills?

The question is, what EXACTLY do you want them to do. Be specific. The problem with North Toledo or the East Side is education, or the lack thereof. Toledo has a terrible ratio of college educated citizens, and that is the first thing that needs to change.

The shit hole you refer too is where I live now and in the past five years IT HAS gotten in my neighborhood.

It is not A SHIT HOLE.

"The question is, what EXACTLY do you want them to do. Be specific. The problem with North Toledo or the East Side is education, or the lack thereof. Toledo has a terrible ratio of college educated citizens, and that is the first thing that needs to change."

What do I want the city to do?

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR US ALL.

College educated people are the solution. Really?

So if we are not college educated then what?

And where are the businesses opening in the north end that will hire the educated masses?

I think I am seeing you in your words looking down on people other than you who are not in the same neighborhood as you and do not have what they assume is the same level of education as they.

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It is too a shit hole, don't lie. I'm not referring necessarily to the people that live there, but as you said, take a drive. Trash is littered everywhere. Houses have become shambles. It has become such a depressed area. Crime is rampant. I'm not looking down anyone. I didn't got to a high paying university and receive a Bachelor's, I went to Owens CC and received an Associates in Information Systems and will soon be receiving one in Computer Programming this winter.

I'll tell how I see it. I see North Toledo and East Toledo in shambles. Tell me different. Is that the city's problem that people don't know how to put garbage in a garbage can? Is that the city's problem that people can't maintain or upgrade their homes? Maybe a new DIY roof job? A fresh coat of paint? I see it in West Toledo and I see it in South Toledo. Point is, people lack responsibility, respect, and pride and that's the issue as far as neighborhoods go.

Owens is pretty cheap, and you can get Federal loans and defer them. There's no excuse for not continually educating yourself. If you can't find work for yourself, look to that issue first.

(edit to reply to: "ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR US ALL.")

Develop your economic opportunities on your own. Go back to school for engineering, and get a job at SSOE. There's quite a number of Entry Level job's available for Toledo, Ohio, according to their website.

Who's lieing about what?

The area in which I live has improved, wanna know why?

Cause I bitch and whine. And the city has not stopped responding to the complaints as the same problems are now coming back around once more, trash on side walks and all the other problems you noted.

And the city administration does not care to enforce regulations and finds nothing wrong with trash over flowing from cans and piling trash on the sidewalks and lawns and so on.

So who is to enforce the rules when the city will not and some of the citizens do not?

"Point is, people lack responsibility, respect, and pride and that's the issue as far as neighborhoods go."

Correct and we can expect the city to enforce the rules they set forth but that countermands your previous statement that it is a personal responsibility problem.

"Owens is pretty cheap, and you can get Federal loans and defer them. There's no excuse for not continually educating yourself. If you can't find work for yourself, look to that issue first."

Yup and you think that everyone wants a college degree? And if they don't will they drag the city down because they are not as educated as the rest?

"Develop your economic opportunities on your own. Go back to school for engineering, and get a job at SSOE.""

Or don't give advice when you do not know the others situation....

"I'm not looking down anyone." Maybe yes, maybe no. The comment about being educated tends to make me think you are indeed looking down at people no matter the cost of your education.

People are where they are in life and if everyone wanted a degree they sure can go get one and there will be more educated people competing for the jobs and then there are people that are not cut for degrees and so on.

They still deserve a responsive city government, don't they?

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"Correct and we can expect the city to enforce the rules they set forth but that countermands your previous statement that it is a personal responsibility problem.:"

You say it counermands my statement, yet, you say the city comes out and continues to clean the trash in your neighborhood, but yet, it keeps happening. Because people have no self respect and respect and pride for the area they live in. It IS a lack of personal responsibility.

"Correct and we can expect the city to enforce the rules they set forth but that countermands your previous statement that it is a personal responsibility problem."

Agreed. The city needs to enforce more on those rules. Abandoned buildings need to be razed. Give an opportunity for a new home to be built on that land.

"Or don't give advice when you do not know the others situation...."

Then people need to quit whining about not finding work. I'm not speaking directly to you. Obviously I am aware of the situation because the "poor economy" is continuously brought up. Well, if you can't find a job with your current credentials, then build yourself up and look again.

"The comment about being educated tends to make me think you are indeed looking down at people no matter the cost of your education."

I'm not looking down on anyone for not being educated, but somebody who isn't trying to improve their situation to find work has no right to place blame on anyone but yourself. A college degree doesn't guarantee you a job. It certainly helps to improve your chances.

Everyone deserves a responsive government, so long as they aren't expecting government to be responsive in finding you a job or maintaining your home. Toledo is surely in an economic slump, but, if those people haven't exhausted every opportunity to get a job, then they have no one to blame but themselves.

And by enforcing the rules the self pride will be installed.

If we do not correct the problem then how does the problem get resolved. By hoping and wishing.

"...but somebody who isn't trying to improve their situation to find work has no right to place blame on anyone but yourself."

And did anyone say that they were not trying?

Of course if a person complains, which is a natural thing to do, and is offered a chance and fails to take it because the person simply does not want to change, then yes, it is the fault of the person.

But there is an employers market place now. More people than jobs and so many who may be qualified fail to get employment, their fault or too few jobs.

"Everyone deserves a responsive government, so long as they aren't expecting government to be responsive in finding you a job or maintaining your home."

There are rules/laws that pertain to the conditions of a house or home and it is not about maintaining a home by the city, it is the rules and regs we live by or are suppose too.

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"don't know how to put garbage in a garbage can? Is that the city's problem that people can't maintain or upgrade their homes?"

Well there is rules and regulations that pertain to proper trash containment that have been on the books since the 50's and the administration and departments fail to enforce, well enough the rules.

The Mayor wants a clean city and some of his staff see nothing wrong with trash over flowing from cans and spilling on the ground, specifically Kroma and Reinbolt and Frederick of the Neighborhood Departments has stated that I should stop picking on people who may be able to afford a trash can.

With leadership like this we wonder why the places you cited are a mess?

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is that unless you have emotional ties to this city it is irrational to think that a business or personal life is going to thrive in Toledo.

The schools are in a terrible condition, the local economy is consistently the worst in the state, highest unemployment and the city is losing employers and home owners at an astonishing clip.

I've said it before - if you want to look at what Toledo will look like in 2010, take a drive up to Detroit. Same decisions being made here that lead to the disaster there 20 years ago.

Exact

same

decisions..

(edit - T++ I am very happy to hear you are doing well. You realize you are the exception rather than the rule?)

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

And I'm not trying to gloat here that I am doing well, but I am trying to make it a point to say I'm doing well because I'm looking out for myself and on my own terms. YOU have opportunities, so seize them. Don't blame your (not necessarily you) personal problems on the city.

Personal problems on the city?

The city has an economic development head that fought Costco coming to town and Rite Aid and Walgreens.

It is quite something to see the leader standing in the way of businesses coming to town.

Read more at: http://www.clipfile.org/category/blade-city-government/

"And I'm not trying to gloat here that I am doing well..."

No of course not. Just that if people were educated they would be better off, that's all.

How do you know what education any of us have?

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"How do you know what education any of us have?"

I don't, and never insinuated that I did. Its' a well known fact and "statistic" that Toledo's college educated is far in the minority.

"No of course not. Just that if people were educated they would be better off, that's all."

Read the job postings. Most require a Bachelor's. I'd say that your more likely to get a job if you had one, I don't know. (And so you don't take me out of context, I'm not saying "you" directly).

I'm not sure if this counts, because I live in Sylvania. (Since your comment mentioned about business/personal life "in Toledo.")

But, I'm happy to say that I just got a promotion to my dream job. This is the kind of job that I would have moved to another city for, if it had been required for me to move. But I was fortunate enough to find it in good old Lucas County. :)

(I had been on the search and entertaining offers in other states/regions, and was pleasantly surprised do find that the best offer of all came right in my own back yard!)

It may have been luck, being in the right place at the right time, or some combination thereof...but whatever it is, I'm definitely thrilled about it. We did not want to move if we didn't have to do so.

Your citing national trends and applying it only to Toledo. TPS is not the greatest, its' well known in the community, but last I read TPS was doing quite well and actually better for a city our size, however, I have no data to back that up but I'm happy to do some research on it and if I'm wrong, well, I'm wrong. Now, that doesn't mean TPS is where it needs to be, but I hear plenty of students who've thrived coming out of TPS. PART of the problem is the lack of parent involvement in their kids education. Once again, a non governmental issue. Will I be sending my child to TPS? Well, no. I will be sending him to St. Clement's or Blessed Sacrament, regardless if I was religious or not they provide a good education. For those who think TPS isn't their cup of tea, there are alternatives.

I still don't see where Toledo is in any worse shape. The downturn in home ownership is a national trend, due to CITIZEN'S lack of acknowledging the magnitude of owning a home and purchasing things they can't pay for, and not doing their research on sub prime loan's which with a little research you would know is a risk.

A lot of what ails Toledo can be fixed with citizen's bettering themselves and their community. Get an education, go to college, be ambitious and get involved. Toledo needs people who take initiative, rather than sitting on the sidelines waiting. That's what the city was built on.

I believe I am qualified to make the comments I have. I am eminently qualified and have had professional success in Columbus, Ohio, Baltimore, MD as well as in Michigan.

I owned a successful business for many years and worked as a sys. analyst for a large insurance corporation as well as an award winning salesman.

I've done well at my career and I've enjoyed it. I have never worked in the trades but I did take economic classes. I'm just curious how you think Toledo, which has overwhelmingly been a manufacturing class city can thrive when there is such a loss statewide, only surpassed by the Toledo market? Since '01 Ohio has lost 1 out of 4 manufacturing positions.

What potential do you see for the empty and crumbling manufacturing facilities that overwhelm the city when the city leadership turns toward predatory budgeting rather than fixing the issues that are driving employable people from the city? What potential for a city whose leaders think to raise more money from fewer citizens you must tax more and start new 'fees' for services that the taxpayers already pay to maintain?

As I said - you are the exception in Toledo and I am always thankful to hear a success story. We are doing alright as well, however if we were in blue collar positions looking for work, you have to acknowledge we would not be likely to thrive in Toledo.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

There's a story each week in the Toledo Free Press called Brain Gain. I'm not the only one doing well, as you are too, and I'm glad to hear that you are as well.

Its' no secret that Toledo is being hit hard due to manufacturing loss. Thats' to no blame of the city's, possibly our Federal government, but not the city's. What the city can do is work with the University to inspire a more diverse economy, and the region has been highlighted on a national level that its' leading into becoming a leader in clean tech and green energy. But the type of workforce is one of many reasons for a company to move. A primarily blue collar work force doesn't inspire Tech companies to come here. Long are the days of high paying manufacturing job's that you can live off of the rest of your working life with only a high school diploma. So what can the city do? Well, work with the university in educating the workforce so that other industries are attracted to this area as well.

Thankfully for the blue collar force, the job's I've seen and heard about for the clean tech and green energy industry looks to be for that type of workforce, hence why we're a potential leader, and that is really good news.

"There's a story each week in the Toledo Free Press called Brain Gain."

Yes, yes there is. And there are other stories and blog comments from people telling us that they are outta here at the end of the education. The patient is bleeding like a sieve and the transfusions are not enough to stem the losses.

"Thats' to no blame of the city's, possibly our Federal government, but not the city's."

Blame the Fed's for the city administrations failures to set a different course when the job losses and change in industry was apparent for some time? The Fed's put plans into action, as in block grants, help of assorted other means and if the city leadership fails to go after the help, who is to blame? The Fed's?

Other cities and towns act to change when change heads their way just as Wood County changed and started to attract more and more businesses their way. Lucas County seemed to be asleep at the wheel and there is an unsettled feel to the county administration, what with the reports of commissioners not fully aware of what is what, and the city economic development staff not working to its fullest and the city selling off bit and pieces to make ends meet, but it is not the responsibility of the city leadership if the city fails.

"So what can the city do? Well, work with the university in educating the workforce so that other industries are attracted to this area as well."

Yes, and the city leadership in the mean time can work more agressively to attract and retain businesses that want the educated massses because as we see now a lot of the recent grads leave for more oppurtunities elsewhere.

But it seems it is not part of the leadership of the city to establish opportunity and when they fail to do so we cannot blame and we blame ourselves for failing to act and hold the leadership accountable.

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

Here is the data: http://www.ode.state.oh.us/reportcardfiles/2006-2007/DIST/044909.pdf

Short version: other than 10th and 11th reading and writing classes, no tests were passed. Annual yearly progress was not met.

TPS is on 'Academic Watch' which is one step from the bottom of the ladder.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

I'm not giving up b/c Toledo doesn't have potential. We have a natural advantage with our city port - as well as the University, particularly now that it has merged (joined?) with MCO.

We also have a great deal of industrial real estate available for development of green think tanks and product development - as well as many workers desperate for work.

I have zero faith the local government will move forward progressively to leverage these great advantages. Following city council, BCC and the Mayor closely over the last two years, I see no progressive action. I only see predatory conduct. If I weren't so tired I'd tell you the tale of the great Western Lucas County Water Agreement. There was a painful thing to witness.

What I'd like to ask our local leaders is; if following specific courses of action in the past has driven businesses and home owners out of Toledo, how do they think their recent - and dramatic - escalation of those very same tactics is supposed to help?

Maybe the truth is I'd like to walk up to them and smack 'em in the forehead. Like that V8 commercial.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

That would require an admission that the policies have not helped and I think we can safely say, not gonna happen.

Schwartz was fond of blaming the city woes and ills on others, as in the past is not our fault and the future will be an end result of the steps taken today and the future ain't lookin' so bright right about now.
http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

My reasons for giving up are 3 fold. First and formost, a private matter. Secondly, exasperated by the economy, it's a huge fight to get anything..and I mean anything. For example, not that this is "Econ" related, but I've tried to buy the lot(s) adjacent to my home for almost 2 years now. Still, Carty has stalled Jannette from Real Estate from delivering the docs..so all my plight for the entire time I've been here is for naught. It's almost Christmas and still, not a land deal to be had. How hard is it to make a land deal on an empty, blighted lot? Hum?? It's not, it's personal because Carty is pissed I tried to help get him recalled...whoopdefreakingdo. The city and the taxpayers loss, I no longer want it.

3rdly... The climate in Toledo, be it business, crime, fundemental understanding and caring, voter apathy, corrupt, overused under brained elected officials that serve themselves first and bill us for it. The legal system, crooks running the streets becasue nobody cares enough to fix the system, incompotent mgmt. of city holdings, pesky A/B/C politicians that would rather get nothing acomplished and have someone to blame, than do something useful like fix anything. What is bright and beautiful about Toledo is tarnished by the sins compounded by the sinners.

I still love Toledo for all the good it brought me in years past, but the funny thing is, when I started to care and pay attention, I suddenly found myself feeling a lil like the wool had finally been eaten by the moths. I saw with uncovered eyes first hand how the players here do things and I'm no longer of the impression that it will change. At least not soon enough for any of us to realize any joy from it.

Chad, you're a remarkable man with a lot of passion! You built a fantastic home, stood up for what you believed in, fought crime, learned all about drainage, created your own blog, ran a mayoral recall effort, and even inspired others.

Thank you!

I wish you the best of success. Perhaps you take a look at fixing up some home in Wood County (Perrysburg / Rossford) prior to Bass Pro and final Levis Commons construction. Either way, all the best to you and yours! Enjoy Life to the Fullest!

I just do what I trust is right. I answer to only one - God. That makes it easy. I follow my heart and hope my head agrees. It's not always easy to do what is right, but when I die, I answer for my actions and life, nothing else.

Thanks for your support and kind words. It's been my pleasure to do my part. Sometimes life throws ya a hefty curve ball and you have to change everything to survive. It's not my wish or desire to make these changes in my life, sometimes choices are few.

I want to be clear, though the City and it's ills are reason enough to move, my primary reasons of a more personal nature and though I've had to throw in the towel, I pray with all my heart that those of you that have the will and vision continue to provide food for thought and action to better this community.

wherever you go, Chad. I understand your reasoning, believe me-having lived here all my life and watched it slowly decline. And as long as the madness of re-electing the same people/names continues as always, and as long as J.R. Block continues to wield his influence, toledo is done.

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BRING THE TROOPS HOME-NOW!

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Is that the city's problem that people can't maintain or upgrade their homes? Maybe a new DIY roof job? A fresh coat of paint? I see it in West Toledo and I see it in South Toledo. Point is, people lack responsibility, respect, and pride and that's the issue as far as neighborhoods go.

Well actually it the OWNERS responsibility to do these things. many houses in East Toledo and the north end are RENTALS. And no, I will NOT replace the roof on my LANDLORDS house!

Well, if you can't find a job with your current credentials, then build yourself up and look again.

Explain that to someone with a masters degree whose ALREADY spent tens of thousands of dollars on education! What are they supposed to do it all over again? I know a TEACHER working in retail becasue there is no openings for the subject that he teaches.

Also, Chad i know we disagreed on a few issues but Im sorry to see you go, SO best of luck to you!

tm... I would know I was nuts if everyone agreed with me. It often helps balance things to have opposing views. The only being that is always 100% right is God. We humans are known for our failings and thus we will always need more than our own opinion to get the goal.

As for to whom the responsibility belongs..."Everyone". We are all citizens of Toledo, rent, own, sponge off parents/friends, whatever. In the realm of responsibility, we all bare our own share. The owners to keep up with code/ standards of living policies, etc. It is also the renter's job to keep the owner abreast of the situation and follow the law in awakening the Landlord's senses about laws concerning property. Also, renters are to take care of their share of that job by maintaing the property in accordance with the lease. All leases should detail the Renter's/Landlord's mutual responsibilities.

Those that are sponging should get off their lazy butt's and rake and do the work of it as payment for the generosity that is being shown them. That's respect and kindness.

The point is that we all owe it to ourselves and eachother to take care of what has been given us. Never leave a place worse than you found it. The better Toledo is and looks the more we will attract in terms of business and job/ sitizens. Citizens and business create wealth as a combined effort. Without them, the City will die.

Toledo is on a slippery slope right now and at the halfway mark, picking up speed. If things don't change in a radical fashion very soon, Toledo will be a dead city in less than 10 years. The current "Leadership" of this City and County are going to drive Toledo into the Maumee. Whoever is left will drown in the mud. Finkbeiner, Gerken, and the TFT are going to kill this city with a single shot to the wallet. You have a School Board, that to say the least is dysfunctional. I seriously doubt there will be much progress in the next 2 years. Bank on it, they're coming with a levy, and soon.

Only a change in the hearts and minds of the Voters will make any difference. Toledoans and Lucas County citizens must pay attention and learn all they can about the Candidates and Incumbants on a very serious level. It's the people that make more of a difference than a money issue/levy. If you have good people, the Taxation will be under control. We don't have a majority of good people in the high ranking positions. What we have is a 3 Ring Circus! And the clowns all have stupid grins.

It's the Citizens with the sad faces........

I agree that peopple who are renting have to maintain their dwellings, My house is the cleanest on the street, the yard included. But i've informed my landlord about 2 years ago that the garage roof needed repaired. Still not done yet. If i force the issue i will get evicted becasue my lease is up and we're on a month to month, and can be terminated at will for no reason with 30 days notice. There isn't anything i can do.

Housing Court Specialist # 419-936-3629. Ask what your rights are and what you must do to gain the proper attention while protecting yourself from retaliation. Have you sent the complaint in writing? Do you have a copy? Paper trails help, send a certified letter of complaint w/ pictures, Keep records of all contact and check with the Code enforcement officials and see if a City sponsorded complaint may resolve the issue. There may be a struggle, but if you have done your part, your rights should be protected. Renters have rights under the law.

Oh i know Chad, i apreciate the help. But i don't have the time or the energy to go to court and try not to get evicted. Partially because its just the garage roof and not the house itself. Also, we've been looking for a new place to move to out of toledo. So i'm hoping i'll find something after the holidays. 8-)

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