Toledo Is Not The Most Liveable City

News Flash...Carty must think the citizens of Toledo are fools! Who does he think he is fooling?

Toledo is not the most liveable city!

According to www.livcomawards.com, The LivCom is "the world's only awards competition focusing on best practice regarding the management of the local environment." It also said "the objective of LivCom is to improve the quality of life of individual citizens through the creation of liveable communities."

Toledo sure doesn't fall into that category!

In addition...in regard to the most liveable cities in the U.S., according to "Places Rated Almanac" the city of Pittsburgh, PA is currently the #1 most liveable city in the United States.

You can look here and see for yourself: http://www.placesrated.com/

You may also look at the article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07116/781162-53.stm

It is very clear that Toledo is NOT and WILL NEVER BE the most liveable city...especially as long as Mayor Finkbeiner and his political puppets are in office.

The most liveable cities according to the Places rated Almanac are as follows:

1) Pittsburgh

2) San Francisco

3) Seattle

4) Portland

5) Philadelphia

6) Rochester N.Y.

7) Washington D.C.

8) San Jose - Sunnyvale, CA

9) Boston

10) Madison, WI

No votes yet

... how would it be done differently? I'm ready for a good "sci-fi" story. Something really wacky. Have at it.

Old South End Broadway

I can see it now. Toledo gets the most livable city award because its the only applicant from North America. Then, when we don't agree, the Czarlton gang will say, "See how negative our doubters are. They're not team players." Toledo is, what Toledo is.

The two awards are based on different criteria. The LivCom award looks at a city's environment and sustainablility. The Places Rated Almanac uses, um, other criteria. FTA:

"And why wouldn't Pittsburgh be highly rated?" [The author] asked. "It's one of the largest metropolitan areas in North America, so it ought to have a great assemblage of arts and culture. It ought to have education and health care."

Seriously, what the hell kind of ranking system is based on what a city "ought to have"? Does the author of this list also compile the NCAA football preseason rankings?

"In addition...in regard to the most liveable cities in the U.S., according to "Places Rated Almanac" the city of Pittsburgh, PA is currently the #1 most liveable city in the United States."

No, Pittsburgh is the most livable Metropolitan Statistical Area. This ranking looked at metro areas, not cities. And Pittsburgh somehow came out on top due to being the most average MSA. FTA:

"The seven-county area that makes up Pittsburgh failed to finish in the top 20 in any of the categories, ranging from a competitive 21st in recreation and 29th in education to a less-than-stellar 111th in housing and 135th in climate."

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"When I say your dumb name, please stand up briefly, but then quickly drop to your knees and forsake all others before me." -Ignignokt

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

i love it here!

cost of living is crazy low... we have wonderful neighborhoods like the old west end, great places to eat, a great museum, fantastic parks.. it's all how you look at it. the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence right?

Yes, we do and yet at the same time we have neighborhoods that need help and the city is failing to respond to concerns about them and when pressed for answers they go quiet or get frustrated and whine that people are not helping the problem by letting the leadership know.

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

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"When I say your dumb name, please stand up briefly, but then quickly drop to your knees and forsake all others before me." -Ignignokt

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

Where is the city failing these neighborhoods? I live in Toledo, just moved from Sylvania, and the only thing the city does for me is pick up my trash at a nominal fee. What is the city expected to do for homeowners, especially the one's who don't mow their lawn or maintain their homes? Problems like those are what contribute to the downward spiral of neighborhoods, citizen's who lack pride in themselves and their homes and let their houses and lawns fall to pieces.

I beg to differ with you all. The most livable city in the U.S. is Two Dot, Montana. If you don't like Two Dot, move to One Dot. No crime in either. Hope you have an income before you come though.
http://russell.visitmt.com/communities/TwoDot.htm

Remind them of the rules and regs and then enforce the rules and regs..

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

Gotcha, and when they do remind them of THEIR responsibilities and then enforce them, people will start whining that the city is declaring a War on Homeowners. Why don't people around here quit BITCHING and COMPLAINING about what the city's responsibilities are and start taking care of their own. NOTHING bother's me more than driving through MY city and seeing people act irresponsibly with their homes, allowing them to become dilapidated and unruly. THAT'S what bring's down property values. THAT'S what make's neighborhoods fail and we wonder why people move to the 'burbs.

I'll tell you where the City is failing. City administrators perpetuate the principle of divide and conquer. As long as they keep all the different racial, ethnic, religious and gender groups snipping at each other, the City Administrators can enjoy the most effective form of stealth, chaos. If the troops are fighting each other, who is watching the generals?

Agreed and how we accomplish this. I drove by an apartment building on Cherry Street and there is trash scattered all around the sidewalk and the tenants fail to clean it up.

The city is charged with these issues and they fail to police the situation and when we seek change they claim we are picking on them or being sarcastic.

How many complaints must it take before the administration understands that there is a problem and no amount of Pride signs is going to change the problem.

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

Any news about what happened in England regarding the boondoggle?

The delegation will learn at 7 p.m. Monday London time whether it has won the award.

"We are not a London or a New York or Chicago, but we have a terrific quality of life and some very positive things are happening in our city."

Like a Mayor who skirts the law....woof...

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071124/NEWS16/711240375

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

I want to see our City of Toledo get all the accolades it can get, but I am concerned that there are people who are purposely misleading the rest of the world so they can say look what I did. Even Stevie Wonder can see the streets are crumbling beneath our feet, the neighborhoods are run down, there are few if any good jobs here, officials willfully violate state and federal laws and boast about it, there is blatant institutional and individual discrimination against minorities and women, religious tolerance is disgraceful, and there are so many other issues that have to be resolved.

I personally like what Jacobs is trying to do, and that is to establish Toledo as an educational and technological hub - a University Town. I think there is a chance for Toledo if Jacobs and others can make that happen. Jacobs is showing real leadership, not that hyped up BS that's being thrown at us daily by the Zoloff Clan. I don't know about you other Swamp Bubbler's, but until I leave here, I'm going to try to get involved in Jacobs strategy to make Toledo a University Town. It's the best idea I've heard in years and it's doable. Traveling across the Atlantic with a questionable video tape and script ain't going to put food on my table and clothes on my back. Genuine economic and cultural vitality will.

"Traveling across the Atlantic with a questionable video tape and script ain't going to put food on my table and clothes on my back. Genuine economic and cultural vitality will."

That's the issue James. Don't expect ANYONE to put food on your table and clothes on your back but YOURSELF. Its' not the city's responsibility to do that, its' yours. Fend for yourself, start your own business or learn a different trade or make yourself more marketable.

It's not the responsibility of elected people to make the city better?

What did we elect them to do, then?

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

Where did I say its' not the responsibility of elected people to make the city better? Its' not the city's job to give you a job. It shouldn't be the city's responsibility to make sure you keep your home and neighborhood clean, that's called personal responsibility that comes with being an adult. For me, bike paths do add to quality of life. Flowers and green space help represent a clean city. The Mud Hens stadium and the new Arena add to the cultural vitality of a downtown. I'm looking forward to using the ferry service that the port authority is helping to bring to the new downtown marina. The downtown parade today put a big smile on my kids' face and we had a good time being entertained by the city and the community that supports it. Toledo, in my opinion, is on the up, starting with a stronger university o attract the world to Toledo and the new development downtown that will help add to the vitality of the city.

Then why does almost every city have some form of a department that is charged with making sure that we clean up after ourselves?

Simple, because not every does or will with out being told you.

"For me, bike paths do add to quality of life. Flowers and green space help represent a clean city. "

Ya notice the bike path on the east side? Over grown with weeds and grass. Personal responsibility starts at One Government Center in that case.

Well sure they do but when the other parts of the city are in decline and the anwers are not coming as to what we are going to do, well people get kinda concerned.

The stadium is nice when it is being used and at the other times it is a large empty place.

People state that the downtown area is thriving. I drive through it and it does not look thriving. It looks deserted most of the time. There are plenty of empty store fronts.

We want more in the city which is why some of us bitch and complain as we WANT MORE.

While the administration tells us how good we got it and in the neighborhoods that do not garner much notice it is kinda hard to see the development through the boarded up and vacant houses.

We are all for the happy talk and when people would accept that away from the down town and the parts of town that are the mainstay of notice, life looks a little different.

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

I read the Blade this morning describing Finkbeiner's presentation for most livable city, and frankly, my wife and I couldn't stop laughing about the out right lies and exaggerations reported in the article.

Seriously, what were the outright lies and exaggerations?

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"When I say your dumb name, please stand up briefly, but then quickly drop to your knees and forsake all others before me." -Ignignokt

There's a city full of walls you can post complaints at

It would be really something if the award was given to a city and then the judges actually visit the city, any city, and see what was presented was not, shall we say accurate.

I drive by the water ways and streams and there are warning signs to not go in and or eat the fish from the water. Was that mentioned?

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

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