CLEAR CHANNEL, REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA NETWORK, OUT TO KILL SPRINGSTEEN'S MAGIC?

A couple weeks ago the new album was #1 on the Billboard album chart. Kid Rock's new album knocked it down a peg and this week, Springsteen disposed on Kid Rock and is back at #1. The album is already gold and headed right towards platinum and he's got a great shot to win a Grammy for Best Album of the Year.

Magic's reviews virtually everywhere are over the top and the intro to his latest interview in Rolling Stone refers to the album's subject matter as "weighty stuff like the direction of our democracy and party stuff that recalls the days when sparks first flew on E Street more than three decades ago."

Republican radio network Clear Channel, a monopoly in many cities and a dominant player in most of the rest, isn't interested. Is it because Springsteen has been an outspoken campaigner for Democrats and progressives? Clear Channel has taken a political stand with its programming in the past.
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"When you have artists like the Dixie Chicks and Bruce Springsteen who have overtly spoken out against this Administration, they are taken to task in spite the clear and undeniable indications from the marketplace that people want to hear their music. What seems to be happening-- if sales are any kind of a barometer of what the marketplace is-- is that these politically-connected radio networks like Clear Channel are not looking to succeed as radio stations as much as pushing forward some political agenda.

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This is what frustrates me the most about WSPD and Fox News; they

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If people want to hear their music, and they're buying the albums (and going to the concerts), what's the problem? If Clear Channel doesn't want to play the albums, then the marketplace should prevail. Their advertisers will go away (if they begin to be hurt by Clear Channel's political stance), and someone else will succeed in the marketplace. Do the people who like Springsteen even need to listen to him on radio? They can catch him on MTV, or FM. They can download him on the 'net, or buy his albums on Amazon. If Clear Channel wants to play politics with their adverising then they are the losers. They are frankly becoming peripheral to the music industry (except for the "old farts" who haven't figured out the web). Or does Clear Channel have a monopoly on Sirius yet?

Old South End Broadway

Clear Channel doesn't have a monopoly on anything and radio's importance to music sales is waning. There is no story here.

This isn't a political problem it's a problem with radio in general.

I remember about 7-10 years ago Johnny Cash had the highest selling country album but got no airplay on the radio.

I don't think it was because of Johnny Cash's political beliefs. Instead I think it's because the corporate suits think that younger faces are more marketable.

MikeyA

MikeyA

I used to love it when Reagan used to campaign playing "Born in the USA". Man was Bruce pissed off. Perhaps Bruce can play on NPR.

As if Springsteen needs friggin' Clear Channel to help sell records and concert seats. He just recently grossed 3.3 mil for two concerts at United Center in Chicago. Like always, he's sellin' out everywhere he plays.

And the Dixie Chicks are really feeling the pain from their little controversy, LOL..."Taking the Long Way" album goes gold within a week last year, "Not Ready to Make Nice" singles (gee, what's that song about again?) a hit, and they win a few Grammys.

Clear Channel? Who gives a rip what they do.

you guys are hijacking this I hate all things republican thread from Sensor and turning it into a discussion about old rockers.

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Or Brownsville Station..."Smokin' In The Boys' Room?"

Man, that was good!

I went back and read it again, and I'm still laughing.

Springsteen doesn't need Clear Channel; it's the other way around.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

I don't care that this thread got hijacked; keeping this group on topic would be like herding cats. :)

For the record, I don

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Unfortunately all too often these days Republican = Fascist.

I feel your pain, because all too often these days, Democrat = Socialist!

I guess where we differ is I dont worry about what's on liberal TV or Radio. if I dont like it, instead of whining, I just tune something else in.

If a major corporation is that owns a large chunk of the public air waves is filter public decent it smacks of fascism.

Music sales are often driven from radio play. Not as much as in the past, but it certainly is a factor. The album is selling like hot cakes, the market has decided, but Clear Channel won't play it, because Springsteen is anti-Bush.

BTW Clear Channel Stock hasn't done anything in 10 years, it's a sucky investment. Maybe they care should less about censorship and more about profit for their shareholders...so much for "market place".
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CCU&t=my

Clear Channel have a monopoly on Sirius yet?

Well, Clear Channel has bought it's way into XM Radio (nearly ruined it) and now with XM and Sirius merging I fear them messing up Sirius too.

The deal between him and Chrissie Hynde is that instead of paying her royalties, he pay the same amount as a donation to PETA.

May he make a bazillion dollars, and donate it all to Moveon.org and PETA. His "music" is still mindless boring pap and chews goat schwantz. Christ, The Stones haven't had a worthwhile song for close to two decades, let alone boring bruce.

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yea, billy, there was nothing really compelling about the original topic so at least the thread will get enough comments to be respectable.

How's Madison?

NEVER been able to understand the hullabaloo over Springsteen. I think he's possibly the most overrated musical artist EVER. yes-EVER.
"Magic", my ass.

"BORED IN THE USA"

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You're happier with Lawrence Welk.

Or Brownsville Station..."Smokin' In The Boys' Room?"

Oh wait, they can't do that anymore, can they?

LOL, FU

>>The Stones haven't had a worthwhile song for close to two decades, let alone boring bruce.>>

I would suggest closer to 3 decades. To me, Some Girls (1978) was the last real Stones album. Tattoo You (1980) was their jump the shark album and, as with all jump the shark moments in the arts, there was no recovery.

I agree 100% Some Girls was their last good album, but IMO, their Last great SONGS came after that-"She Was Hot" and "You're So Cold", which I had to buy another copy of as I wore the original out.

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did your thread get fucked up, Sensor. Not that I really give a shit.
Happens here all the time, welcome to the club.

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Mad City, to those who live here.

By comparison with Toledo it is unbelievably great. I've taken more than a few photos and am going to start work on an essay for Carty and Company, "It Doesn't Have To Be Like This". You ought to see the Farmer's Market, the bike paths, the clean, green city.

It's strange. Both cities have waterfront property available. Madison has a lower population, higher taxes and I think higher utility rates. Unemployment in Mad City is around one percent or so. Violent crime is very low, in fact crime is low. There are two movie theaters and six or eight live theaters... I don't know, the list is endless.

Try putting in a new bike path in Mad City and the locals will turn out to help clear the land. If you want to grow a garden, the city will lease you a plot of land for one dollar per year.

And, since Mad City is a college town, there is always something to rest my old eyes on.

My only trouble is that my family is in Toledo, so I've got to return every so often. Oh, well.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

My, STILL obsessed with the rabid hatred for smokers, aren't we, McAsskiss? Had nothing to do with this thread. It figures you'd think Springstreen was great. LOL

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That lame platter that contained "Miss You", the Stones' attempt at disco?

Black and Blue ('75 or 76') was the last decent Stones album and the last really good one was Exile On Main Street.

The best Stones' albums were the ones Mick Taylor played on.

Toledo (from Wikipedia): The median income for a household in the city was $32,546, and the median income for a family was $41,175. Males had a median income of $35,407 versus $25,023 for females. The per capita income for the city was $17,388. About 14.2% of families and 17.9% of the population were below the poverty line, including 25.9% of those under age 18 and 10.4% of those age 65 or over.

Madison (from Wikipedia): The median income for a household in the city was $41,941, and the median income for a family was $59,840. Males had a median income of $36,718 versus $30,551 for females. The per capita income for the city was $23,498. About 5.8% of families and 15.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 11.4% of those under age 18 and 4.5% of those age 65 or over.

It seems pretty obvious to me: more disposable income makes for a better economy, and people willing to pay more in taxes for public amenities. Toledo will never be Madison. Madison

Old South End Broadway

BBwWWaaaAAHHhhAAAa!! THAT POS SUCKED!! They should've actually stuck with stuff like "Down The Road A Piece" and "Little Red Rooster"-the world would have been far better off for it. (yes, that Stones disco attempt chewed goat cock , I agree-but you have to remember even Kate Smith tried making a disco record back then. God-those were bleak times)
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It seems pretty obvious to me: more disposable income makes for a better economy, and people willing to pay more in taxes for public amenities. Toledo will never be Madison.

You didn't check the housing cost. I about had a heart attack when I discovered rent costs in and around Madison. I suppose it's true that people are willing to pay higher taxes, but the State and City government are serious about protecting the environment.

Mad Jack
Mad Jack's Shack

you look mighty studly in a leisure suit and platform heels.

You can wear them to the big wedding between Sarah and I (other thread).

... advantage. I doubt that they have "affordable" housing like we have here in the Old South End. Such "affordable" housing attracts (and keeps) people with minimal incomes. If you minimize such housing stocks you drive out those who have limited incomes, and replace them with people with higher incomes.

Old South End Broadway

but I never wore that shit, since I despised disco. Even these days, I try to find alternative rock. I'm just as sick of hearing "Starway to Heaven" for the 10,598th time.

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