Should There Be Any Changes To the TPS Dress Code for the Senior High Schools?

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for Senior High Schools if you had your way? What bothers you about the dress code for senior high school students? What would you change for yourself? What does your kid(s) want to see changed? Is it too rigid? Is it resulting in discipline that you think is unfair? Has anyone out there had their kid disciplined unfairly because of the dress code? Has anyone suffered a suspension, or even a removal just based on the dress code?

Old South End Broadway

Out of 96,000 days of suspension, bic, and expulsion I would say a good 48,000 were for dress code violations.

... I never skipped a day when I was in school (even during "Senior Skip Day" at Libbey when I graduated in 1966). I was sick a few days, but I still managed to read and get my homework done. I would think that being sent home in the middle of the class day would be detrimental to a student. Maybe I make too much of it, but if something important was covered then that kid missed out. Maybe the argument could be made, "T.s., s/he knows the rules", but I have to question an administration that values what a person is wearing more than what goes inside his head.

Old South End Broadway

...who felt that what s/he was wearing was more important than what s/he was learning.

Old South End Broadway

???

OSB I understand you're interested in this topic, but 4 separate postings? Why not just put one out there and ask all 4 questions on that one post?

...the questions. Frankly, I don't know how you'd post for yes/no answers on these four questions without separating them. Give me an example, and I'll try to use that for future reference. I would have posted the polls on "Toledo Talk" if I knew how to do it since that is where the original post was that triggered these polls.

Old South End Broadway

I was at the forum at the Board of Education when they decided to have the dress code, at the time it was called the uniform policy. Parents were very adamant that they wanted their children to be individuals. There were other reason why some of the parents did not want a uniform policy. But there were hand picked parents from the Parent Partners or whatever they are called and the Parent Congress who overruled the other parents because Dr. Eugene Sanders had it stuck in his mind that all students should wear a uniform because it would improve test scores. Well we know how that theory played out.

The first year the elementary schools complied more or less. When the junior highs went to uniform the students found a way to make their "uniform" unique. When it went to high schools, there was a complete rebellion, although the administration was saying what a big success it was.

The Early College parents sent an e-mail to the superintendent and policy committee and said that they did not want their students to have a uniform policy because that would make the students stand out on UT's campus. So the administration complied and relaxed their dress code, while holding other schools and students to a strict standard and even started suspending students for dress code violations.

Scott high school with the four small schools was another situation that was a disaster. For instance after Easter break in April 2007 three of the schools had to be in dress code and the fourth did not, for an entire week. This caused all kinds of chaos because even in the same family you had siblings who had to be in dress code and another sibling who did not.

We represented a few students who were suspended for a dress code violation, such as one student had on a pair of pants that had a pocket which was not allowed. At Bowsher a student was pictured in the Blade in a plaid shirt which was a violation but he got no penalty.

I think a dress code would have been better accepted by the students, pants at waist, shirt tucked in and belt. But only allowing one type of shoe, pants and shirt sometimes caused a problem such as the bigger student could not find the pants or shirt with collar that was required.

As far as the classes and teachers, some enforced the code/policy and some did not. So there was no conformity across the board from school to school.

There was also a theory that uniforms would eliminate the gang problem (that we don't have) but last week I saw about ten boys walking to Scott and all had on nice red shirts with a collar!
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There is a dress code if you get a job. There is a dress code if you join the military. Most of these
students will eventually experience getting a job, going to the military or both. Complying with a dress code is part of the public education process. When I was in a student in TPS, if your shirt wasn't tucked-in, you were sent to the office. There is a place for individual expression, its called college and beyond.

I do believe a dress code is a good policy, but I have read the the ongoing thread on toledotalk.com and understand the complaint that the parent has. Is the enforcement of the code to rigid in this case? In my opinion, yes, but those are the rules that my employer has set.

I think the major reason for the dress code is to prevent gang recognition, but as many teachers will tell you the gang members know the gang members from other gangs.

If I could change the dress code, I would make it less rigid when it comes to displaying school pride (athletic uniforms, band gear, school t-shirt, etc.).

I don't know if a student has been disciplined unfairly for the dress code(of course, that's a matter of opinion). I have had students sent home to change clothes or shoes. I have not heard of any students being suspended for the dress code, but being sent home to change is a type of removal.

I will say at Libbey many of the male students are getting pretty smart about the dress code. They keep a belt in their lockers and put it on at the beginning of the day and take it off at the end.

Is anyone answering the polls, or just commenting on the questions? You could write what you think of in a post instead of a survey, and just let people comment and then you could add your own additional questions to that same post to lessen the confusion.

In this list, Ive already seen people copy/pasting their same comment to more than one of your threads - very confusing.

I agree James. In addition, students believe it looks cool to "sag" and their boxers or ass are hanging out. How silly they look. Furthermore, ask these "sagers" to run, they cant...........
The policy for the High School is to eliminate this problem among many, as it needs to be.

The polls are being voted in.
Likely because he seperated them, mashing them all together wouldn't have allowed for each question to be voted on.
Its not that confusing, and I've only seen one person who pasted the same post into each topic.

I saws a comic once that claimed the police started that saggy baggy pant look because it made the thugs easier to catch LOL.

would make sense. However, I heard it started in the prisons. Never know?? I just know it looks silly and they cant run..lol