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Edwards attacks Coulter, defends fundraising off her remarks

Democrat John Edwards said tonight he's proud that his wife, Elizabeth, went toe-to-toe with Ann Coulter after the firebrand author said she wished John Edwards had been killed by terrorists.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/06/edwards-attacks.html

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But as a Christian conservative I wish this woman would sit down and be quiet. (Ann Coulter that is). She is so far from representing anything that my peer group believes, it's a complete joke. I agree with Elizabeth Edwards and I commend her for her comments. The kind of behavior that Coulter displays is an embarrassment and can only serve as a poor example to the nation's children on how to conduct themselves.

I think Ann Coulter doesn't even believe in what she says. I think it's a carefully calculated campaign designed to get her as much media attention as possible.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

i don't like ann coulter and i think she says alot of moronic stuff. frankly, i find her to be extremely annoying (beyond "turn-the-channel" annoying). while i'm not trying to defend ann and her studid statements, wasn't her john edwards/ terrorist statement a play off of a bill maher comment on vice prez cheney?

nonetheless, this unfortunately provides ann coulter future forums. it is also just a political game by the edwards. declining poll numbers + very polarizing figure in ann= political opportunity

Ann Coulter is vert smart. She knows how to sell books. She appeals to the portion of our population that likes to be told how to think, and she knows how to get their attention. Much like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and our own local jokes (Fred Ledumbass, Brian Wilson, and Kevin Milliken), she offers opinion as fact. This disregard for fact is a dangerous game. But all of these people have one thing in common, they're in it to make money (through ratings and selling books). Unfortunately, while Elizabeth Edwards might be raising more money for her husband through this stunt, Ann Coulter is also selling more books. I'm glad Elizabeth Edwards called in. It's about time somebody stood up to these "pundits."

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Her statement was taken out of context-here's the wole thing in its entirety, taken from Toast. Net headline news:

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In answering criticism of her March speech, Coulter referred to comedian Bill Maher's suggestion, also in March, that "people wouldn't be dying needlessly" if Vice President Dick Cheney had been killed when terrorists launched an attack as he visited Afghanistan. She contends that Maher - whose comment about Cheney drew little attention - was not joking. "So I've learned my lesson," she said on the ABC program. "If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

When Coulter appeared Tuesday on MSNBC's "Hardball," Elizabeth Edwards called in to ask Coulter to stop making personal attacks on her husband. The exchanged deteriorated, with Coulter shouting over Mrs. Edwards and demanding that the campaign stop using her name to raise money if they want her to stop personal attacks. Response to the controversy was so large that it repeatedly crashed the server for MSNBC's political blog Wednesday.

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Sure wish she'd eat more cheeseburgers, the woman is anorexic.

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Rush and Coulter are completely different. Coulter is an Al Franken type pundit. They both use gross hyperbole and extremes in their commentary largely intended to shock and draw attention to themselves. Rush, on the other hand, is more of a political analyst with a conservative bias. He doesn't use the types of hyperbole and exaggeration that characterizes Franken and Coulter. Rush's liberal counterpart would be someone like Keith Olberman.

Regardless, conservative pundits of all types are held to a much stricter judgement by the media than their liberal counterparts. Rush is misquoted and choice-edited more than anyone else. CBS and MSNBC will splice his sentences and leave out key context in order to make it sound more extreme than it is. I have a friend who is fairly liberal. He had "heard" a Rush quote on NBC/CBS/ABC that Rush said on the air that infuriated him (it was something about Katrina). When he told me what Rush had said, I knew it was out of context so I told him to actually read the transcript. My friend came back the next readily admitting the network news station misquoted him. They left out entirely the whole context of what was said leading up to the comments. This happens all the time, and Rush will play both audio segments fully. It's absurd what the network news stations get away with.

If anyone is guilty of misdeeds here it is Edwards' wife for intentionally misquoting someone in order to raise funds for her husband. Desparate times call for desparate measures in the Edwards campaign I guess.

...because EVERYONE in politics takes advantage of statements for their own personal spin.

However, in reading the post Darkseid made, providing the actual quote, I see Coulter is not making fun of Edwards. She used Edwards as the example, but she could have just as easily used any other dem. pres. candidate. She was actually making fun of - and criticizing - Bill Maher's statement about the VP.

So, take a step back and think about this...without getting all up in arms about the INDIVIDUALS involved.

All Coulter did was apply Maher's statement about Cheney to Edwards.

Everyone is all up in arms saying Coulter is bad, evil, anorexic (though I don't know what this attack on her appearance has to do with her words)...but no one had the same response to Maher's statement about the Vice President.

Personally, I don't think that either of them (coulter or maher) should have said what they did. And Coulter, in trying to show the absurdity of the statement didn't choose the right way to do so.

But when you stop reacting emotionally to the situation and look at with a critical eye, you'll see that Coulter's made her point very well: that Maher received very little attention for what he said so she can say the same thing and should receive very little attention as well. But we can all see, evidenced by this post and all the media coverage, that such is not the case.

So ask yourself...why is it that Maher gets a pass, but Coulter doesn't?

Either both of them should suffer no consequences for their statements - or both of them should be 'ripped to shreds' for what they said. But it's inconsistent and a bit hypocritical to criticize one and not the other.

Somebody gets it. Kudo's Maggie.

The singular form kudo has been produced from kudos by back formation, the same process that gave us the singular pea from pease, originally both singular and plural, sherry from Xeres (an earlier spelling of the Spanish city Jerez), and cherry from the French singular noun cherise. This singular form has developed the meanings

Junta's first comments on this were right.

Coulter is uses her comments to sell books. Edwards is now using his wife to gain more funding from the far left. It's all just tactics.

If Coulter held any major credibility with conservatives she'd be on talk radio. She is too far right for even the far right. That's why she can only sell books. Personally I think her comments do more to hurt conservatives than help them.

As far as Edwards goes he's moved farther and farther left in order to seperate himself from Obama and Clinton. It's a strategy based on money. He knows he couldn't raise enough to compete against those two as a middle of the road candidate so he's moved far left where the money is in an effort to have a chance.

IMO he still will be unable to pass either Obama or Clinton but will be a top VP candidate. However I doubt he can bring home any southern state, even his own, which hurts his chances.

MikeyA

MikeyA

...perspective on Coulter.

http://conservablogs.com/muthstruths/2007/06/28/how-to-handle-a-problem-...

"Aside from the fact that Coulter is helping the Edwards campaign raise more money by using her comments to their advantage, such rhetorical bombast sucks all the air out of the national media debate, detracting from conservatives trying to get their message out.

Today, for example, instead of talking about conservative opposition to the Senate immigration bill, everybody

Is that Coulter's better looking and Moore has bigger boobs.

...why is it that this thread - twice - has degenerated into Coulter's looks? Who cares what she looks like?

MEN!

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It's obvious Libs are just envious that the Repubs have better looking women!!

At least Ann doesn't have fat ankles and wears pant suits.

I also think it's pretty hilarious how crazy libs get with their anger, name calling, and taking everything so personal. It's clockwork with logic.

I think Ann demonstrated perfectly the double standard on how liberals can say things and not be held account vs. what conservatives say, including on this particular thread. Amazing. Repeat something a lib states and it's national news. Priceless.

I only wish Ann could have asked Edward's wife if she was going to defend him on Fox News as well.

The repugs DO many times have better looking women, but I call Coulter Olive Oyl. I'm not repelled by her, but I really worry about her
health. I DESPISE that bolemic look that's so popular today.
I get tired of seeing her constantly shove her hair out of her eyes, too-she needs a new style, might even make her look heavier.

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BRING THE TROOPS HOME-NOW!

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"They keep talking about drafting a constitution for Iraq.Why don't we give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, and we're not using it any more".

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Maher says just as hateful things, but he's a liberal, so he of course gets a pass("that's Different-he doesn't write a column"). Same with Micael Moore-"Wellll...he isn't a commentator, he just makes documentaries."

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BRING THE TROOPS HOME-NOW!

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"They keep talking about drafting a constitution for Iraq.Why don't we give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, and we're not using it any more".

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Anorexia have a book out now? Of course, she can still pitch the old ones. LOL I think Liz Edwards has a book out, too, if I'm not mistaken.

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BRING THE TROOPS HOME-NOW!

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Yes, she is clearly anorexic.

I'm sorry heyhey, but I must disagree. You're merely referring to one quote. What about the quote where Coulter called Edwards a "faggot." Surely, he and his heterosexual wife are allowed to stand up for themselves.

Here I am being picky again. Kudos is a singular noun whose Greek plural is kude. An anglicized plural might be kudoses. Hey, don't flog me. I can't help it. I used to teach English.

Yeah, they're both entertainers and I don't take seriously what either says. Mahr seems to be a little more up front about his entertainment quotient than Coulter, who seems to take herself much more seriously and tries to push people's buttons. But both are song-and-dance people. I don't pay much attention to either one except as entertainers. Neither is a critical analyst of the news. They're partisans with axes to grind.

Coulter is an Al Franken type pundit

Wow, I'm starting to think John Edwards is right--there are two America's. One based in reality, and then the one that heyeheyeh lives in.

http://nookularoption.blogspot.com/

But when you stop reacting emotionally to the situation and look at with a critical eye

That's a good point. If we look at Maher's statement(s):

"But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn

Very Nice!!!!

Agreed. Both men have their flaws...

http://nookularoption.blogspot.com/

Coulter has a bigger Adam's apple...

It's obvious Libs are just envious that the Repubs have better looking women!!

It's obvious you have low standards

http://nookularoption.blogspot.com/

Everyone is all up in arms saying Coulter is bad, evil, anorexic (though I don't know what this attack on her appearance has to do with her words)...

So ask yourself...why is it that Maher gets a pass, but Coulter doesn't?

While I don't like Ann Coulter at all, I thank you for pointing out the appearance aspect, which leads me to believe that the biggest reason she doesn't get a pass has little to do with her views but lots to do with her gender.

When was the last time someone criticized Limbaugh's looks as part of ripping apart (out of context or not) anything he said?

It's obvious Libs are just envious that the Repubs have better looking women!

How can we tell you have better looking women since you keep most of them in burkas?

If I wanted to see someone with a big Adam's apple and short skirt I'd go downtown to Caesars...

BWWwwAAAaaHHHhhAAAaa!!!!!

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

...NC for posting these...but I'm concerned that one is a gossip columnist and the other is a talk show (O'Reilly Factor, at that)...

were you able to find any 'main stream' media or news reports?

For Coulter, I found stories in USA Today and National Review On-Line...

Don't watch his show at all. I don't read any of that kind of junk or listen to it. I don't care if it comes from the left or the right. I just don't have any tolerance for people who make a living by standing in the way of progress.

I'm aware it pays well - I just think it's wrong and it always annoys.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

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