Does the Military Have Your Child's Information?

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Check this story out from McClatchy, about a little-known provision in the NCLB Act.

The idea came to Welch last summer when a contract Army recruiter wrote and offered her $100 if she'd enlist. She wondered how he'd obtained her name, address and telephone number.

They discovered that a little-known provision of No Child Left Behind, which President Bush signed in 2002, requires schools to give the military personal information about their students. Otherwise, the schools' federal aid could be at risk.

Welch and Ybarra found that their high school published all that information and more

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I hope the military does have my children's names because last time I checked we have a voluntary military in this country, and no one in the services was forced to join. One day maybe, if our county is in dire enough need, the draft may be reinstated, but until that time no one was forced to join. In my humble opinion, I would like to see mandatory military service. Two years after high school should be required of every US citizen. I can promise you all these USA bashers would be singing a different tune after serving their country for a couple years. Their is a pride and a sense of ownership that comes with this type of service, and we need a lot more of that from our young people. I see it every day at school, kids whining about how they hate this country, we should do this or that. It sickens me. There is nothing at all wrong with a military career. In fact, for some that is their only option of escaping a live of poverty and despair, and I see no problem with that. I hope when my daughters grow up, they would take pride in, and be willing to serve their country if called upon. So, yes, I hope the military does have their names.

--These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will; in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. -Thomas Paine

I hope the military does have my children's names because last time I checked we have a voluntary military in this country

That's fine for you. As you say, it's voluntary. What about others who see this as a breach of our privacy?

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...have the same access as the military?

If so, then if we're talking about not sharing information with one entity, we should not share information with ALL entities.

If not, then the policy needs to be uniform - no one gets special access.

An easy way to handle this is to provide parents with a notice that such information is routinely given out, per (insert whatever law or policy applies), and that they can opt out by returning said form...

Problem solved.

Peace corps is not the same as the government action with regards to military recruiting, which I am sure is obvious.

The administration is looking for recruits for the armed forces not peace corp volunteers which if we had more of, there might be more peace.

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"Otherwise, the schools' federal aid could be at risk." I believe the acceptance of aid does make schools obligated to the Federal government on many different levels and this would be one of them.

Furthermore Chris I think you'd be very shocked to know what exactly is public information. For instance, everything you need to open a credit card: Name, SSN, Birth date, mother's maiden name; are all public record. In the days of identity theft many are shocked to learn this but this is how credit companies verify who you are. They just bet that the criminals won't take the time to look it up.

"Peace corps is not the same as the government action with regards to military recruiting, which I am sure is obvious." Actually neighborhood they are all different forms of Government Service Organizations. That's why if the draft were reinstated there would automatically be a deferrment for those in the peace corps.

And to answer Maggie's question I believe the information is open to all the organizations you listed as well.

Anyone who's angered at this should see what info colleges give out. The only way to prevent it is to sign documentation protecting your privacy which is a part of the standard admissions package they give you. I opted not to sign mine when I enrolled at EMU for various reasons. Universities have had actually more blatant violations of students privacy as well, most notably locally was UT when it decided to inform parents of underage citations for students where were of a legal adult age.

On a personal level I get calls daily trying to get me to consolidate my student loans which I do not have. I know full well my name and number was given to these institutions by EMU as they didn't begin until I enrolled.

MikeyA

MikeyA

It's also important to note that males are still required to register for selective service although because of a lack of draft many do not and the government doesn't prosecute. However not registering can prevent you from getting many government jobs and aid.

Currently women are not required to register nor are they allowed in "combat". But as the current situation shows combat can be a very loose interpretation in war.

MikeyA

MikeyA

how could this be a breach of privacy when so much tax money is spend educating these children, whether we agree with it or not?

If we're paying, I would hope that someone had complete records on whom we are spending all of that money on.

I would also hope that each student were educated enough to make an informed decision, when it came to military service.

Hooda Thunkit

Q.What is the effective date for these military recruiter access requirements?

A. While there are differences in the effective date provisions for 10 U.S.C.

...thanks for the links, but I'd like to clarify, just in case.

I was referring to whether or not colleges, universities, military, peace corps, etc...all had the same access to high school student information.

I believe that any policy about such access should be uniform and apply to all equally.

Additionally, if colleges/universities allow companies to recruit, they should allow other such entities - like the military, peace corps, non-profits - the same access. If you begin to say you don't want one entity because you don't like a political position that's been taken, then where does it stop? If you say no military because of a policy imposed upon them by the president, do you then say no to Wal-Mart because you don't like their wage structure, or to a timber company because you don't agree with how they do/do not protect some spotted owl?

Besides, I believe that college students should be astute enough to be able to make such decisions without the 'protectiveness' of a campus administration. What's of interest to one might not be to others...isn't college all about learning and exposing students to ideas and teaching them the critical thinking necessary to be successful in the world and their chosen field?

how could this be a breach of privacy when so much tax money is spend educating these children, whether we agree with it or not?
If we're paying, I would hope that someone had complete records on whom we are spending all of that money on

So just because someone pays taxes, they should be forced to provide the name, phone number, and address of their children to anyone with $2 to spend?

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I was referring to this from a privacy perspective. I don't think it's right for ANY entity to have name, address, phone number, etc of children without parents permission. It shouldn't matter what their political position is.

http://nookularoption.blogspot.com/

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