Recalling the Mayor

Do you foresee this as a possibility? I know it's happened in other cities... would Toledo citizens ever consider this?

No votes yet

that this was tried at least twice before, wasn't it? With King Carty (his first reign)& the Blade puppet, JFo? Such a move wouldn't go anywhere, due to the vast majority of the voting sheeple being illiterate pigs.

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In World War 2 we fought (and defeated) the Axis. Today we're afraid of cellphones, smokers, and cheeseburgers. It's about at the end, people.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

...only because with perhaps about the 1% of intellectually ept Toledoans that can clearly see the ignorance, manipulation, smokescreening, and juvenile antics the mayor exhibits, along with the spineless, overproduced anchor to Toledo's budget as well as the overpopulation on City Council that are doing the bitching.

Carty Finkbeiner has been jerking Toledo around under the guise of "ToledoPride", but lacks the balls, or perhaps would rather pad his cronies lifestyles, to eliminate the fat and pork in his office, but would rather allow Toledo to fester in scum and the results of his delusions of granduer and self-fulfilling agendas at the city taxpayer's expense.

Carty will lick the ass of anyone powerful enough to be used to further Carty's personal agenda in the community. Anyone is expendable that fails to hop aboard the bus, but if you're a cheerleader, you can get anything you want.

Just remember, it's not the "City Manager" you want back, it's someone qualified to be mayor that is sincerely looking out for Toledo that can rise above the pathetic politics that tie this city down.

SmokeScreen Tactic: The mayor accused his critics on council of engaging in

In 2005 Columbus was ranked as the United States 15th largest city, with 730,657.

There are 21 members representing the 21 wards of the City of Cleveland. Each ward has approximately 23,500 people. That is appox. 493,500 people.

In the 2000 census, Toledo city proper had a population of 313,619. As of July 1, 2005, however, the U.S. Census Bureau listed the city with a reduced population of 301,285.

As long as we're questioning the size of our council, can someone explain a little better about the "at large" council members?

Toledo has been divided up into 6 districts, each having an elected councilperson who lives within those districts to represent them.

What do at-large councilpeople do?

Why do we have as many at-large councilpeople as we do district reps?

I mean, if one were to crunch the numbers, if there were a vote, and all the district reps voted one way, and all the at-large council voted another, there'd be a tie - get carty in there to break it, we could have a vote carry thru that not one single district representative was in favor of.

Sure, that's an extreme way to think of things, but still, it does give one pause...

I do not support a recall of the mayor specifically because nothing has been proven that anything he has done is illegal. Dumb, maybe, Arrogant, definitely but I feel removal from office should be directly from legal misconduct.

Aside from that the voting public needs to live with the results of their vote. Maybe it'll encourage more to be more informed. Although I don't think they had much of a choice. Maybe we should relook at our primary process to prevent matchups of Dumb vs. Dumber.

As for council it's setup with atlarge and districts to better resemble the state and federal legislatures. However on council the two sides have an equal share in voting and procedures. I support removing at large seats or at least making the council more bicameral with checks and balances. The current legislature gets too wraped up in voting blocs rather than actual compromise. Either would correct many of the current problems.

MikeyA

MikeyA

We complained about Carty because he was arrogant, loud, obnoxious. We voted him out for Ford who was quiet, humble, low-key...we didn't like that either....so, we vote Carty back in...knowing his personality....then we complain about that too.

What I see is a pattern of the citizens not being happy with anything in Toledo. Again...Toledo will never become a great city when its citizens cannot even change their bad attitudes.

Forget recalling the mayor...maybe we need to excommunicate some citizens...and replace them with ones who are smart enough to know it all starts with a positive attitude even when problems seem overhwhelming.

Kooz says we voted the Mayor out. Nope. He termed out.

Sat out one term and ran again. Against Ford. Not much of a win there. You could have won that election for about a buck three eighty.

Kooz also says we voted him in, "...knowing his personality....".

Wrong again. A large part of the campaign was addressing the Mayor's past behavior (bad), and discussing the life altering event of cardiac surgery. His WIFE even put out there what a personality change the guy had.

So, after having been LIED to - Kooz's response is that the citizens' should be replaced? Phatooey.

People are not happy with the PROFESSIONAL performance, the agenda and the mindset of the Mayor or our city council.

This will bring about change. If you want to be where everybody accepts whatever is said, never asks for accountability or change Kooz - why'd you ever leave kindergarten? Because that's the last place I ever observed the contented herd mentality that you keep beating the drum about.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

among us who never seem to have a problem with rewriting history - HERE is the platform that Carty ran on. From his handout June 30, 2005 - kicking off his campaign. This is HIS set of promises to us.

"Our mission
The Finkbeiner administration will unite and promote, in every way possible, a clean,green, and safe city with vibrant colors everywhere

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

IMO I think we should reevaluate the primary process for the mayor's job. I think we should probably look at a system where more than two candidates could make it through to the general election. For instance the top two and candidates who can either grab something like over 10% of the populace or win a certain many precincts.

I say this because there is normally so many people who enter into the primary that the lesser known candidates get too wrapped up in trying to get publicity that whatever credible message they have gets lost in the translation (see Keith Wilkoski).

Also it prevents one section of the city that may be firmly in the pocket of one candidate from deciding 1/2 of the ballot in the general election. It would be better to have more choice than say candidate A (a nutjob) or candidate B (favorite of only the South end).

Also I think a 3 or 4 person general election would either make or break the blade's influence. If they try to do a candidate as they did Kest the impact of it on the total election would most likely be minimized.

MikeyA

MikeyA

Had a recall of Selectmen tried and failed in a town I lived in Massachusetts.

From the Toledo City Charter

CHAPTER VI.
INITIATIVE, REFERENDUM AND RECALL
Section 75. Ordinances may be initiated.

Any proposed ordinance may be submitted to the Council by petition filed with the Clerk and signed by electors of the City equal in number to twelve percent (12%) of the total number of votes cast for all candidates for Mayor at the most recent general municipal election at which the Mayor was elected.

(Amended by electors 11-3-92)
Section 76. Duty of Council when petition sufficient.

If the certificate of the Clerk shows the petition to be sufficient, the Clerk shall submit the proposed ordinance to the Council at its next regular meeting. The Council shall at once proceed to consider the same and shall take final action thereon, within thirty days from the date of the submission thereof. If the Council fails to adopt such proposed ordinance it shall be submitted to the vote of the electors in the same manner as for an ordinance upon which a referendum vote is demanded.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)
Section 77. Proceedings for referendum when Council amends.

If the Council passes the proposed ordinance with amendment substantially changing its tenor or effect, the ordinance in its original form shall be submitted to a vote as in the case of failure to pass in any form, provided that the proponents thereof secure and cause to be filed with the Clerk, within fifteen days after final action by the Council, an additional petition for the adoption thereof signed by electors of the City equal in number to at least one percent of the total number of ballots cast for Members of Council at the preceding municipal election; provided that no elector having signed the original petition or for such ordinance shall be eligible to sign the additional petition, and no signatures made or petition paper signed before action by the Council on the original petition shall be valid for the additional petition. If the ordinance as originally proposed is adopted by the electors, the amended ordinance as passed by the Council, shall be without effect, and in any case the operation of such amended ordinance shall be suspended until a referendum is possible to be had.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)
Section 78. Ordinance to repeal may be initiated.

Proposed ordinances for repealing any existing ordinance in whole or in part may be submitted to the Council as provided in the preceding sections for initiating ordinances.
Section 79. Compulsory referendum of certain measures - franchises.

No ordinance or resolution for a public improvement requiring or authorizing the expenditure of more than fifteen percent (15%) of the average gross annual current operating expenditures by the City for the five (5) fiscal years immediately preceding, or for the granting of a general public utility franchise, shall be effective until the same shall be approved by a majority vote of the electors voting thereon; provided, however, no convention center, exhibit hall, sports arena, or municipal theater, other than a sports arena located in the City's Marina District, being the area bounded by the Maumee River, Interstate Highway 280, Front Street and Main Street, shall be constructed, acquired, or leased unless the ordinance or resolution authorizing construction bidding, acquisition, or leasing shall have been approved by a majority vote of the electors voting thereon, whether or not such ordinance or resolution requires or authorizes the expenditure of more or less than fifteen percent (15%) of the average gross annual current operating expenditures by the City for the five (5) fiscal years immediately preceding. A general public utility is one in which all the people of the City may have an interest.

(Amended by electors 9-11-01)
Section 80. Duty of Clerk to request election thereon.

Within five days after the passage of an ordinance or resolution within the provisions of the preceding section, the Clerk of the Council shall request the election authorities to call a special election to be held not less than thirty nor more than fifty days after the passage of such ordinance or resolution.
Section 81. Referendum on Petition.

Every ordinance shall be subject to the referendum if at any time within thirty (30)days after its adoption a petition signed by electors of the City equal in number to at least twelve percent (12%) of the total number of votes cast for all candidates for Mayor at the most recent general election at which the Mayor was elected be filed with the Clerk requesting that such ordinance be submitted to the people for consideration.

(Amended by electors 11-3-92)
Section 82. Ballots on referendum.

The ballots used in voting upon any measure submitted to the electors for approval shall contain the title and subject thereof, which may be stated in the title, and underneath the two propositions, "For the ordinance (resolution or amendment)" and "Against the ordinance (resolution or amendment)." Immediately at the left of each proposition there shall be a square in which by making a cross (X) the voter may vote for or against the proposition.

(Amended by electors 11-4-19)
Section 83. Elections on Referendum and Initiative Petitions.

Elections as to initiative and referendum petitions shall be held at the next regular general or primary election occurring not less than seventy-five (75) days after the Clerk certifies the issue to the election authorities.

(Amended by electors 11-3-92)
Section 84. Effect of approving vote.

If a majority of the votes cast be in favor of a measure submitted to referendum, the same shall thereupon become adopted as if it had been passed by Council; or in case of an amendment to the Charter, it shall become of full force as a part thereof.
Section 85. Emergency measures subject to referendum.

An emergency measure shall be subject to a referendum as other ordinances or resolutions. If, upon a referendum, it be not approved, it shall stand repealed, but any expense incurred in accordance with the provisions thereof and before the disapproval by referendum shall be paid under the authority thereof as if the measure were still effective. Until repealed upon referendum it shall continue effective.
Section 86. Power of the Council to amend or repeal.

After the people have legislated for themselves, either by initiating legislation or passing favorably or unfavorably upon legislation referred to them by any body, their action is final and shall not be subject to amendment or repeal, without a general vote of the people of Toledo on same.

(Amended by electors 11-2-15)
Section 87. Recall of officer by petition.

(Repealed by electors 11-6-34)
Section 87A. Removal of Officer by Recall Petition.

Any elected officer provided for in this Charter may be removed from office by the electors by the following procedure:

A petition for the recall of the elected officer containing a statement in not more than two hundred (200) words of the grounds for the recall may be circulated once in any calendar year within a circulation period not to exceed ninety (90) days, and may be filed with the Clerk of Council. Such petition to be sufficient shall be signed by at least that number of electors which equals twenty-five percent (25%) of the electors voting at the last regular City election for that office. Within ten (10) days after the day on which such petition shall have been filed, the Clerk shall determine whether or not it meets the requirements hereof. If the Clerk shall find the petition insufficient, the Clerk shall promptly certify the particulars in which the petition is defective, deliver a copy of the certificate to the person who filed the petition, and make a record of such delivery. Such person shall be allowed a period of twenty (20) days after the day on which such delivery was made in which to make the petition sufficient. If the Clerk shall find the petition sufficient, the Clerk shall promptly so certify to the election authorities, shall deliver a copy of such certificate to the officer whose removal is sought, and shall make a record of such delivery. If such officer shall not resign within five (5) days after the day on which such delivery shall have been made, the election authorities shall thereupon fix a day for holding the recall election at the next regular municipal election held not less than sixty (60) days after the expiration of the period of five days last mentioned. No petition to recall shall be filed within one (1) year after an officer takes office.

(Added by electors 11-3-92)
Section 87B. Ballots.

The ballots at such recall election shall conform to the following requirements: With respect to each person whose removal is sought, the question shall be submitted: Shall (name of person) be removed from the office of (title of office) by recall. Immediately following each such question there shall be printed on the ballots the two propositions in the order here set forth: For the recall of (name of person); Against the recall of (name of person).

(Added by electors 11-3-92)
Section 87C. Filling of Vacancies Created by Recall.

In any such recall election, if a majority of the votes cast on the question of removal of any officer is affirmative, the person whose removal is sought shall thereupon be deemed removed from office upon the certification of the official results of that election and the vacancy caused by such recall shall be filled in the manner provided in this Charter for filling vacancies in such office. The officer removed by such recall election shall not be eligible for appointment to the vacancy created thereby.

(Added by electors 11-3-92)
Section 87D. Term Limitations.

(a) No person shall serve more than twelve (12) consecutive years on the Council and shall not be placed on the ballot for election for any term if service for the full term would constitute a violation hereof; except that the two (2) year term served by district Council members during 2002 and 2003 in order to commence "staggered terms" will not count against the permitted total of twelve (12) consecutive years or be considered an "interruption" for purposes of determining the twelve (12) consecutive years a person has served. For purposes of this section no distinction shall be made between an at-large or district Council member except for the district Council members serving two years terms during 2002 and 2003. A Council member who has completed service of twelve (12) consecutive years may be elected or appointed to City Council if such term or partial term for which the Council member is elected or appointed shall commence no earlier than one year from the date on which such Council member completed his or her twelve (12) consecutive years of service on City Council.

(b) No person shall serve more than two (2) consecutive four (4) year terms as Mayor; provided, however, that service in the position of Mayor pursuant to appointment or succession to that office, or service on the Council pursuant to appointment to the position of Mayor, shall not be credited toward any term limitation.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00; 11-7-06)
Section 88. Validity of recall petitions.

(Repealed by electors 11-6-34)
Section 89. Proceeding when petition sufficient.

(Repealed by electors 11-6-34)
Section 90. Conduct of election - candidates - ballots.

(Repealed by electors 11-6-34)
Section 91. Limitation on recall elections.

(Repealed by electors 11-6-34)
Section 92. Requirements of petition.

A petition to initiate an ordinance, or for a referendum of an ordinance or resolution, or of an amendment to this charter, need not be made on one paper, but may be the aggregate of two or more petition papers. Each signer of a petition paper shall sign his or her name in ink or indelible pencil, and shall place thereon, after his or her name, his or her place of residence by street and number. To each paper there shall be attached an affidavit by the circulator thereof stating the number of signers thereto and that each signature thereon is the genuine signature of the person whose name it purports to be, and that it was made in the presence of the affiant.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)
Section 93. Uniformity of petition papers.

Petition papers circulated with respect to any proposition shall be uniform in character and form. The Clerk shall determine and keep on file forms of blanks to be used in the several instances of petition, and all petition papers shall conform to such forms, respectively.
Section 94. What the petition shall show.

If the petition is to initiate an ordinance, or to refer an ordinance or resolution, or for an amendment to this Charter, each petition paper shall set forth the proposed measure in full. Every petition, whether for initiating an ordinance or other purpose, shall bear the names of five electors whose names shall appear on each petition paper, and who shall thereon be designated as the proponents of the proposition of the petition, and who shall be recognized as the committee in charge thereof.
Section 95. Clerk to determine sufficiency of petition.

The Clerk shall determine the sufficiency of a petition within ten days after the same is filed with him or her, and endorse his or her certificate thereon. When supplemental petition papers are filed, as herein provided, the Clerk shall determine the sufficiency of the petition as supplemented within ten days and endorse thereon his or her finding.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)
Section 96. Supplementing certain insufficient petitions.

If the Clerk certifies that a petition to initiate an ordinance, or to amend this Charter, is insufficiently signed, the same may be supplemented by the filing with the Clerk within fifteen days, of an additional petition paper or papers, prepared, signed and authenticated as in the case of the original petition.
Section 97. Effect of Clerk's decision.

The final decision of the Clerk that a petition is insufficient shall not prejudice the filing of a new petition for the same purpose. The finding of the Clerk as to the sufficiency of a petition shall be a final order.
Section 98. Duty of Clerk when petition sufficient.

After the Clerk determines that a petition is sufficient, the Clerk shall certify the fact to the Council, and, if the petition requires an election, also to the election authorities, of whom the Clerk shall request that provision for an election be made.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)
Section 99. Notice of election.

In case of a referendum election, the Clerk, not less than twenty days before the date thereof, and on the tenth day before said date, shall cause to be published in the City Journal a notice of such election. The notice shall set forth a true copy of the measure as given in the petition or resolution.
Section 100. Publication of initiated ordinances.

Initiated ordinances, if passed by the Council, shall be published as in case of measures originating in the Council. Ordinances or resolutions, or amendments to this Charter, adopted upon a referendum need not be subsequently published, but a statement that they are effective as a result of the referendum, giving the full title of each approved, shall be made in the City Journal.

Then form why the recall is to be made.

Publicize, publicize and then publicize some more, both on line and off line and then set the date and put it to a vote.

http://toledoohioneighborhoodconcerns.com/blog

While I appreciate the time you took to post that information, I wasn't asking for the steps in a recall. I was responding to MikeyA's comment about the primary being set up to only allow the top two vote getters into to the general election. I didn't vote in the last mayoral election because I couldn't in good conscience vote for either candidate. If Wilkowski had been running, I would have voted for him.

MikeyA said this is what he'd do. I've heard people complain about the way the primary is set up in the past. So, that's my question: what can we do to change the way the primary is set up?

The City Charter sets out these rules and for future reference http://www.amlegal.com/toledo_oh/;

CHAPTER III.
NOMINATIONS AND ELECTIONS.
Section 11. Election authorities - City election date.
All elections provided for by this Charter, whether for the choice of officers or the submission of questions to the voters, shall be conducted by the election authorities prescribed by general laws and the provisions of the general laws of the State shall apply to all such elections except as provision is otherwise made by this Charter. A regular general election for the choice of Mayor and members of the Council as hereinafter provided, shall be held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November in odd-numbered years.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63)

Section 12. Non-partisan primary.
Candidates for Mayor and for Council to be voted for at the regular City election under the provisions of this Charter shall be nominated at a non-partisan primary election to be held on the second Tuesday after the first Monday in September of 1967 and thereafter on the second Tuesday after the first Monday in September in such odd-numbered years as hereinafter provided.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63; 5-3-66)

Section 13. Nominating petitions.
The name of any elector of the City shall be placed upon the primary election ballot for nomination as a candidate for Mayor when there shall have been filed with the election authorities a petition signed by not less than seven hundred fifty (750) nor more than fifteen hundred (1500) electors of the City, and for City Council running at-large when there shall have been filed with the election authorities a petition signed by not less than two hundred fifty (250) nor more than five hundred (500) electors of the City, and for City Council running in a district when there shall have been filed with the election authorities a petition signed by not less than fifty (50) nor more than one hundred (100) electors, the form of said petitions to be substantially as follows:

We, the undersigned, hereby present whose residence is Toledo, Ohio, as a candidate for to be voted for at the primary election to be held on the day of , 19 and we individually certify that we are qualified to vote for candidate(s) for

Name Street & No. Ward-Precinct

___________________________________________________________________________________________

State of Ohio, Lucas County, ss:

being first duly sworn, deposes and says that he or she is the circulator of this petition paper and that the signatures appended thereto were made in his or her presence, and are genuine signatures of the persons they purport to be.

Signed

Subscribed and sworn to before me this day of , 19 .

Notary Public

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 14. Requirements of petition - how signed - filing date - notification - acceptance.
Signatures to nominating petitions need not be appended to one paper, but to each separate paper there shall be attached an affidavit of the circulator thereof, stating that each signature thereto was made in his or her presence and is the genuine signature of the person whose name it purports to be. Each signer of a petition shall sign his or her name in ink or indelible pencil and, after his or her name, shall designate his or her address by street and number or other description sufficient to identify the place.

All separate papers comprising a nominating petition shall be assembled and filed with the election authorities as one instrument at least sixty (60) days prior to the date of holding the primary election with respect to which such petition is filed. Within ten (10) days after the filing of such nominating petition the election authorities shall notify the person therein as a candidate whether the petition is found to satisfy all the prescribed conditions. Any eligible person placed in nomination as hereinabove provided shall have his or her name printed on the ballots for the primary election if, within five (5) days after such notification, he or she shall have filed with the election authorities a written acceptance of nomination.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 15. Selection of Candidates for Mayor and for Council.
The number of candidates at the regular City election shall be the two (2) candidates for the office of Mayor receiving the highest number of votes in the primary election; for the office of member of Council at-large shall be twice the number to be elected who receive the highest number of votes in the primary election; and in addition to the foregoing, commencing with the primary election in 1993, candidates for Council from a district shall be the two (2) candidates receiving the highest number of votes within the district. In case there shall not be more than two (2) lawful candidates for Mayor, or not more than twice the number of lawful candidates for the office of member of Council, or not more than two (2) lawful candidates for member of Council from a district, to be elected at the regular City election, then in any or all such cases the full number of candidates for Mayor or for Council at such primary election shall be the candidates at the regular City election.

(Amended by electors 11-3-92)

Section 15A. Elections to Fill Vacancies.
If there is a vacancy in the office of Mayor, or member of Council, from a district or at-large, the vacancy shall be filled first by appointment or succession to the office as specified in this Charter and filled for the unexpired term at an election for that purpose as specified below.

If there is a vacancy in the office of Mayor or Member of Council at-large, an election for the unexpired term shall be held at the next general election occurring more than ninety (90) days after the date of the vacancy. Persons desiring to become candidates for the office shall file nominating petitions as provided in this Charter with the election authorities not later than the sixtieth day before the said election. If the vacancy occurs in the year that the election for that office is already scheduled, then the person appointed shall serve until a successor is elected and qualified.

If there is a vacancy in the office of a member of Council from a district, the vacancy shall be filled at the next primary or general election occurring more than forty-five (45) but less than one hundred eighty (180) days after the date the vacancy occurred, but if no primary or general election is scheduled during that time period, then the vacancy shall be filled at a special election on the next available special election date as specified in state law occurring more than forty-five (45) days after the vacancy occurred. Each person desiring to become a candidate to fill the unexpired term shall file nominating petitions with the election authorities as provided in this Charter not later than the tenth day following the date on which the vacancy occurred, or on the fortieth day before the date of the election, which is later, provided that when the vacancy occurs fewer than six (6) days before the fortieth day before the election, the deadline for filing shall be the thirty-sixth day before that election.

In the event application of the foregoing paragraph would result in holding an election to fill an unexpired term on the same date as a regularly scheduled primary or general municipal election held to nominate or elect an individual to serve for the next succeeding term, or within sixty (60) days prior thereto, then there shall be no election for the unexpired term and instead the appointee shall serve until the new officer is elected and qualified for the next succeeding term.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 16. No party designation on ballot.
No ballot used at any City election shall have printed thereon any party or political designation, emblem or mark of any kind or character, and there shall not be appended to the name of any candidate any such party or political designation or mark or anything showing how the candidate is nominated, or indicating the candidate's views or opinions on any matter.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 17. Marking ballots - voting for candidates not regularly nominated.
In order to vote for a candidate or candidates at any primary or regular City election, the voter shall, after entering the voting booth, place a cross (X) in the square before each candidate's name for whom the voter wishes to vote, but in no case shall an elector vote for more than one candidate for Mayor and for more than the number of candidates to be elected for Council as hereinafter provided.

A blank space shall be left on the ballots below the printed names of the candidates for Mayor and for Council. In such space an elector may write, stamp or place the name of any person eligible for such office and vote for the person by placing a cross (X) before his or her name to indicate a choice. Any person so voted for shall be considered a candidate in the counting of ballots just as if he or she had been regularly nominated, but in no case shall an elector vote for more than one candidate for Mayor and for more than the number of candidates to be elected for Council as hereinafter provided.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 18. Rotation of names.
The name of candidates for Mayor and for Council shall be printed on the ballots at both primary and regular City elections in rotation as follows:

The ballots shall be printed in as many series as there are candidates for the office for which there is the greatest number of candidates. The whole number of ballots to be printed shall be divided by the number of series and the quotient so obtained shall be the number of ballots printed in each series. In printing the first series of ballots the names of the candidates shall be arranged in the alphabetical order of their surnames. After printing the first series, the first name shall be placed last and the next series printed and this process shall be repeated until each name shall have been printed first in one series. The ballots so printed shall be combined in tablets to be supplied to the various voting places. Each tablet shall, contain substantially the same number of ballots from each series, and so far as is practicable, the ballots shall be combined in such manner that two or more from the same series shall not be together in a tablet. The ward and precinct shall be designated on the face of the ballot.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63)

Section 19. Counting of ballots - use of mechanical devices.
In all primary and regular City elections for the office of Mayor and of members of Council the provisions of the statutes of the State of Ohio with reference to the counting of ballots cast in primary and general elections shall apply. In all primary and regular City elections for the office of Mayor and of Council the election authorities are empowered to utilize voting machines orother mechanical devices. Requirements of Section 18 of this Charter may be modified to the extent made necessary by such mechanical devices.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 20. Who to be declared elected.
The candidates for the office of Mayor receiving the largest number of votes at the regular City election and the number of candidates for the office of member of Council, as provided in this Charter, receiving the largest number of votes at such regular City election shall be declared elected. The Mayor elected at the 1993 regular city election and thereafter shall be elected for a term of four (4) years commencing on the first business day of January next after such election, and shall serve until a successor is elected and qualified. The at-large members of Council elected at the 2001 regular City election and thereafter shall be elected for a term of four (4) years commencing on the first business day of January next after such election and shall serve until their successors are elected and qualified. The district members of Council elected at the 2001 Regular City election shall be elected for a term of two (2) years commencing on the first business day of January next after the 2001 regular City election and shall serve until their successors are elected and qualified. At the 2003 regular City election and thereafter, the district members of Council shall be elected for a term of four (4) years commencing on the first business day of January next after such election and shall serve until their successors are elected and qualified.

(Amended by electors 11-7-00)

Section 21. Recount of votes.
A recount of votes may be had by any candidate for Mayor and for Council in the manner prescribed by the statutes of the State of Ohio for recount of the results of any primary or general election.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63)

Section 22. Preservation of ballots.
The ballots cast at each election shall be preserved by the election authorities for examination and recount in the manner provided by the Revised Code of Ohio for ballots in municipal elections.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63)

Section 23. Deciding a tie vote.
A tie between two or more candidates shall be determined by lot under the direction of the election authorities.

(Amended by electors 11-7-16)

Section 24. Witnesses, challenges, and inspectors.
At each municipal election each candidate for mayor and any three (3) or more candidates for Council who shall file a written application with the election authorities at least ten (10) days before said election, shall be entitled to exercise all the rights now or hereafter granted by the election laws to a political party in regard to the appointment of witnesses, challengers and inspectors of election at the polling booths.

In addition to such rights each candidate for Mayor and such group of three (3) or more candidates for Council shall be entitled to appoint two (2) witnesses to the count in the central counting place. Application for the appointment of such witnesses to the count must be made in writing to the election authorities at least ten (10) days before the election. Credentials shall be issued by the election authorities to such witnesses to the count, which shall grant such witnesses full power and authority to move anywhere within the central counting quarters, to inspect all activities of the count and to exercise all rights and powers conferred on witnesses and inspectors of election under the election laws.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63)

Section 25. Mode of nomination and election for certain officers.
The mode of nomination and election for Clerk of Municipal Court and any and all other elective officers (except for Mayor and members of Council) that are or may hereafter be provided for by statute or otherwise for the purpose of carrying on the functions of the government of the City of Toledo, or duties incident thereto, shall be in the manner provided by statute for the nomination and election of judges of the Municipal Court of the City of Toledo.

(Amended by electors 10-8-63)

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Kate B...

Give me a break! You were lied to by Carty's wife and believed he had a personality change?

You voted for Carty based on what his wife said about him as opposed to his past record?

Yet another example of the blame game. It wasn't your fault for ignoring his past record...it was his wife's faulty for telling you Carty really is a great guy...

Also...you are correct...we didn't vote Carty out...I was so wrapped up in the thought that everyone voted for the anti-carty that I made a mistake on that.....however...you guys would have voted him out if given the chance....

My prediction for The Toledo Blade Headlines in ten years...

Carty Finkbeiner re-re-elected Mayor of Toledo...Citizens blame his wife for speaking fondly of her husband

Maybe not people like me Guest Zero...but surely not habitual complainers like you...

From The Blade today;

"Mayor Carty Finkbeiner complains that "What we need is leadership."

Is he not the leader of Toledo? Another blunder? Or is our mayor finally speaking the truth?"

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...now that we've gotten the product home for a while, we see it didn't really live up to its billing...

So, instead of looking at ourselves and trying to support a better product in the future, we're talking about changing the way all of us make a decision?

You don't have to change your form of government to change your attitude and your elected officials.

How many who didn't want Carty or Ford actually WORKED for, in some way, another candidate?

And per usual - if assigning the blame is the goal for you - there's always a healthy helping for everybody.

For whatever reason, it is undeniable that a few sleight of hand tricks work consistently on the voter base in Toledo.

Not sure if we are having a dialogue about the two major parties not prepping, positioning and advancing their own picks ahead of the primary - but that's a fact.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

I suppose that you're saying I was responsible for the campaign and this representation to the public of a changed man?

I mean it is documented. It's not like we did not ALL hear and see it?

And this? ".however...you guys would have voted him out if given the chance...." <--Kooz

So do you actually HAVE a cert for mind reading? What is your deal?

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

...people don't like Carty, there are many individuals who call themselves Democrat who will not vote for a recall if it means that Ludeman, a Republican, becomes mayor.

for some, when push comes to shove, better a democrat mayor you hate than a republican.

Ain't it fun being on this side of the wall? lol

It has to be so much nicer for you this spring :-)

I notice some people still can't resist taking grossly uninformed pot shots at you though.

What is it w/Toledo?!

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

Carty Gets Results - More fees, less growth, more declining in Toledo

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...were that district reps would be representing the individual issues within each district and the at-large reps would be representing the city as whole - thereby balancing the interests of individual neighborhoods with the interests of all Toledoans...

at least, that's what I remember...

The ONLY reason The Fink got in again was the weak field, which left him and Ford, who everyone but the inner city hated/despised. Ludeman was a goddamned JOKE, just put his name in as a token candidate.

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In World War 2 we fought (and defeated) the Axis. Today we're afraid of cellphones, smokers, and cheeseburgers. It's about at the end, people.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Let me guess....people like you, right? I repeat once more....HAD FINK BEEN RUNNING AT ANY OTHER TIME, he would have lost. There were nothing but weak candidates there, and you can bet your ass he knew it before getting in the race. And, no, sorry, the reason jackoff Ford got in was NOT because people wanted 'low-key' after the Fink's first reign-it was Block's endless hatchet job on Kest, combined with the racist vote ('I'm votin' for him because he's black'). And, yes, before anyone brings it up, I'm fully aware the rag endorsed Kest-but that was done so his supporters couldn't bitch as loudly about said hatchetjob.

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In World War 2 we fought (and defeated) the Axis. Today we're afraid of cellphones, smokers, and cheeseburgers. It's about at the end, people.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

...we seem to be going from one extreme to the other...

Ok. You're certainly not the first person to bring this up. We've identified a potential cause of the problem.

Now, how do we change it? What's the first step?

???

I didn't have a comment in this thread. What are you referring to?

Carty is in the position to be a political leader of the metro area. However, he is NOT an economic leader, and THAT is what gets things really bent out of shape. Politicians represent a PARASITICAL economic presence, not a GENERATIVE one, and from that, they have little if any economic leadership potential.

The economic leadership must come from the Capitalists. If Elbert Hubbard's words still apply, that means essentially citizens with savings and homes. If have a home and savings, then you at least fit the definition, so I can only suggest that you step up to the responsibility of your capital.

...how glad I am...

or hear somewhere that toledo has more people on council than cleveland or columbus? Or am I wrong on that? I think cutting back on council members would be an excellent place to start trimming fat.
After all, if you're losing population, why should the number of porkers wallowing at the public trough remain steady?

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In World War 2 we fought (and defeated) the Axis. Today we're afraid of cellphones, smokers, and cheeseburgers. It's about at the end, people.

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'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

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