Would you support a farmers market located outside of Downtown Toledo, say Perrysburg, run by local businesses/entrepreneurs?

Yes, absolutely provided there are plenty of choices (produce,meat,deli,flowers,artist displays,etc.)
42% (18 votes)
No, the Erie Street Market didn't work, why should this one.
42% (18 votes)
12% (5 votes)
Don't Know
5% (2 votes)
Total votes: 43
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Perrysburg has a farmer's market every Thursday from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m. along its downtown sidewalks. I don't know who runs it. It lasts roughly from May to October. Vendors sell produce, other food items, and flowers. I have seen an artist or two at times. The P-burg farmer's market changes. It used to be on both sides of its downtown streets, but I'm not sure that's the case now.

Apparently, the farmer's market on Wednesdays at Westgate was a success last year. A last month's ReUrbanism meeting, Paula Ross said vendors did not lose Saturday business because of the Wednesday market. Ross said vendors had a net gain by having markets in two locations on different days. Ross also said other markets could open in Toledo.

The poll question mentions the Farmer's Market while one of the answers mentions the Erie Street Market. The two are not the same. They happen to share the same parking lot, but Toledo's downtown Farmer's Market could be held elsewhere. The two are independent of each other. Having the indoor and outdoor markets in the same place created a nice synergy.

The "market" bay inside ESM closed last spring while the bays housing the Libbey Glass Outlet and the antique mall remained open until the antique mall owner moved out last fall. The Frogtown Alley bay is used for entertainment or something. That's where the Glass City Beer Festival was held earlier this month.

The outdoor Farmer's Market remained operational last year.

I think this question exemplifies some of the confusion that occurred last year with the closing of the market bay. I think many people thought the whole damn area was closed when it wasn't.

I know I read or heard quotes from people at the Farmer's Market or the glass outlet or the antique mall who said they lost business due to the closing of the market bay because some people thought those other places were closed too, and/or because some people who shopped at the market bay would browse the other areas and make purchases at those other places too.

Not the Frogtown Alley bay. It used to be the Frogtown Square bay that was home to small business vendors, but it's now the Civic Center Promenade, used for special events.

Five or six years ago, the market bay was packed with vendors. I think that's why they opened the Frogtown Square bay, to make room for more vendors. By 2003, local economic conditions or increased ESM lease rates or something caused vendors to start leaving the market and Frogtown bays.

About the entire indoor ESM, Jack Ford had the right idea in February 2005 :

"Mayor Ford also says the market can't be forever supported by city tax dollars, and at some point if the market continues to struggle, it needs to be turned over to private hands."

I prefer the selection and quality that is consistent at Monettes. They can't be beat and they have everything ya need.

I enjoy Monette's too, but the ESM plus Farmer's Market of the type back in 2001-2002 was a fun place to kill a few hours on a Saturday morning. A music band played inside the ESM market bay. You could shop for a variety things at the ESM, and you could sit down inside and eat at one of the cafes or eat what you purchased. Messina's Italian Deli was an anchor in the market bay that my wife and I really enjoyed buying from.

And the produce at the Farmer's Market is locally grown.

I always go to a farmer's market in Michigan, or Monettes, or Andersons (which has some of the best produce & the best deli). I wouldn't take the time to head out to Perrysburg (plus I hate the snob factor there), no more than I did ESM. I wasn't impressed with the quality at ESM.

A farmers market in an easy to get to location would be a great idea. The Erie Street Market is so gloomy looking at times, all the closed buildings.


I wasn't aware of the market in Perrysburg. My thought was a Northwest Ohio market, not a "Toledo Market" which would take advantage of the location at the Crossroads at I-75 and the Ohio Turnpike. The market would support all of NW Ohio and target those traveling along the Ohio Turnpike and 75. With Bass Pro Shop coming the exposure a market could receive would be enormous. The selling point would be location,location, location. Remove the politics that were seen at the Erie Street Market and have a strong management team, basically what a report stated a few years back.

I'd like to see more opportunity for entrepreneurs in NW Ohio and a market, in the right location, minus politics, would help people get off the ground. I know the Erie Street Market tried to do this and failed but I believe with the right location, not downtown Toledo, a market could be successful. I have plans to visit the North Market in Columbus and see what they have going on.

Your right there is a bit of confusion over the question. Let's say the whole thing. Move the outside Farmer's Market, move everything inside the Erie Street Market, including the Libby Glass Factory and put it in a 20,000 sq ft or more facility at the Crossroads in Perrysburg. Built it from the ground up. Yeah I know, where is the money going to come from and I'm not sure. I'm just thinking currently of the potential of the location and the traffic that is, and will be generated from this location.

I agree, turn it over to private hands. The report mentioned the confusion over the whole concept and I seem confused as well. I stopped going down there a few years ago but do remember when it was pretty busy at times. I think as long as it stays in Toledo's political hands and the location doesn't change there's no hope.
Forget a "Toledo Market". Call it a Northwest Ohio Market or Crossroads Market and change the location. I don't know the vehicles per day at I-75 and the Turnpike but they have to be enormous.With Bass Pro Shop, the exposure of such a market would be huge and the location would be a great selling point.

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