Smoking Ban

Just curious now that the smoking ban has been in effect for a few weeks how everyone is feeling on it? Likes and dislikes? Let us know what your thoughts are!

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I did expect to see change, but since there are no repercussions for violating this legislation yet - maybe that is indeed why.

My son and a friend went to a concert a couple of weeks ago and came out reeking of smoke. I don't want them going in there again - I had thought (not publicly naming this facility - I don't have all the facts) that where concert tickets were sold the facility was no-smoking prior to all this. But maybe not?

But I've seen no change to date in Toledo.

If you're here to tell me it's my fault - you're right. I meant to do it. It was alot of fun. That's why I have this happy smile on my face.

I quote from B.C. Forbes in 1953:
'What have Americans to be thankful for? More than any other people on the earth, we enjoy complete religious freedom, political freedom, social freedom. Our liberties are sacredly safeguarded by the Constitution of the United States, 'the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given time by the brain and purpose of man.' Yes, we Americans of today have been bequeathed a noble heritage. Let us pray that we may hand it down unsullied to our children and theirs.'

"Our liberties are sacredly safeguarded by the Constitution of the United States"...but are slowly being eroded away by the likes of the new anti-smoking law in Ohio. Don

If man has no tea in him, he is incapable of understanding truth. ~Japanese Proverb

Buckeye loss due to second hand smoke."The debate is over"

The evidence based on studies.

Both are great football programs.

Both have great traditions.

Both have great coaching.

Both have large budgets.

Both have great fans.

Both states now have smoking bans. Oh Oh! After further review. HMMMM!

Florida has had a smoking ban for a couple of years. Ohios just sort of went into effect.
Hold on Columbus has had a smoking ban for almost a couple of years!
After further review. Based on recall questioneers received from residents of the Columbus suburbs. A number of the respondents stated that they thought they saw Ohio State football players frequenting eateries and taverns that allowed smoking.
Folks the scientific evidence is in. Second Hand Smoke is the cause of the Ohio State loss to Florida in the BCS.

"So....Do you want the blue pill...or the red one?"


'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

Well nobody was watching the game from the Blues Station in Columbus, another smoking ban casualty as of Jan 2.

They had to change their strict blues format when the smoking ban went in in early 05 to keep their head above the water and called it quits after a long slow death.

So much for some culture in C-bus. Probably will put another useless rave joint in there in its place.

I used to remember having a hard time finding a seat in this place....before the 05 Columbus smoking ban went in.

Sorry, Toledoites you tried your best to remedy Ohio of the fascists, but the nanny "progressives" down here ruined it for everyone in the state by putting their heads in the sand.

Nareman want to make love with LediLexa.

3 major venues..gone within the last 6 months.
Don't know about the Ma and Pa's as the paper says nothing when they close.

The Blues Station-January (had about a 4 year run, lost much business after the Columbus smoking ban went in in 2005)

Victory's-was a busy place since the early 1980's. Closed in January.

Little Brother's- formerly the legendary Stache's and moved in 1997 to the Short North area. Closed this week.

Recent local musician grapevine talk of taking live music out of the following places.

Short North Tavern-one of the first clubs that opened during the building up of the Short North in the mid 1980's. Will soon be eliminating live acts to remodel and then introduce a "format change". Interesting. One of the places that was always packed to capacity.....before the Columbus smoking ban.........

St. James Tavern-recently forbidden to host live music due to a "fire code" violation. One has to wonder what that "fire code" violation might have been.

Businesses will go out this close to the line. Even further away, I was in Cleveland in an old stomping hole where I used to spend some time and where I know the owner. I asked him how he was doing. He said his 40-year-old bar was dying. He doesn't have a patio, no corner where people can go and smoke...nothing. Nobody is going there anymore and it used to be packed years ago. WELCOME TO OHIO. Go somewhere else because we don't want you.

The name of the bar is the Harbor Inn, an old bar where lake freighter crews used to stop in. It has a great beer selection and the owner is a super guy from Slovenia. His sister runs the kitchen. It's down on the west side of the Cuyahoga River in the Flats.

Two more local venues that offered live music are gone.

The Finish Line in Delaware, OH (blues bar)

The Bear Rock Cafe in Columbus, OH (had jazz on Fridays)

Also, The Lime Spider in Akron. (original rock I presume)

Bentley's in Dover is closing and reopening as a 13-17 year old REC CENTER.

Oh well, the bars are the prom now anyway, so what the hell.

Don't spike the punch.

Thanks Darkseid, I'll go over there right now.

Nothing like the oHeilo gestapo closing up all these joints.

long time no see. Thanks for the update. ;^) How come you haven't been by smoking lobby lately? I miss your Dogbert avatar.



"They keep talking about drafting a constitution for Iraq.Why don't we give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, and we're not using it any more".


'I used to have compassion, but they taxed it and legislated it out of existence.'

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